The stream is behind, but if you are on Meetecho, it’s pretty good.

Brian

On Mar 11, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Tom Pusateri <[email protected]> wrote:

> I was listening to one of the sessions through the live audio streaming 
> feature of the iPhone IETFers app this week while I was in the session to 
> just verify the streaming was working from the app. There was about a 10 
> second delay between the live audio and the streaming audio. Joel noted that 
> in addition to audio processing and conversion, the audio was sent from 
> London to Washington State where it was replicated back to London.
> 
> The delays are important to any form of remote participation. If you want 
> remote participants to interact with live participants, you must keep the 
> delay as low as possible or the live participants will give up on the remote 
> participants. This actually quite difficult to do well while also scaling to 
> reach lots of remote participants.
> 
> It will require extra audio engineering work for each location as well as 
> delay sensitive network testing.
> 
> Tom
> 
> On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Alexa Morris <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> One of my colleagues recently showed me this free app: http://crowdmics.com/ 
>> thinking that it might work for the IETF.  It purports to do just what you 
>> are talking about and I've been mulling over how we might experiment with it 
>> (or something similar)
>> 
>> Alexa
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 7:52 AM, Spencer Dawkins wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 03/11/2014 08:00 AM, Brian Rosen wrote:
>>>> I’ve been thinking about this, and wonder if we actually could make this 
>>>> even better.
>>>> 
>>>> So, maybe the way we deal with mic is to…get rid of in-room microphones.
>>>> Have an app that runs on phones, laptops and tablets that puts you in the 
>>>> queue, and you use your device mic to speak, when you are recognized.
>>> 
>>> I ended up as note-taker in AQM last week. Even being an AD doesn't get you 
>>> out of taking notes :-)
>>> 
>>> Which leads me to my point. It's a pretty serious disincentive for a 
>>> serious participant (and ADs are at least supposed to be paying attention 
>>> between e-mails) to volunteer as note-taker if they have to stand in a mike 
>>> line holding their laptop open and typing, in order to say anything.
>>> 
>>> During the Harald Alvestrand-as-IETF Chair era, I was usually note-taker 
>>> for IESG plenaries, and we joked about that being a DOS attack because if I 
>>> was sitting down typing, I wasn't standing up talking (let's ignore whether 
>>> that was a good thing or a bad thing, OK?).
>>> 
>>> Some chairs have let me wave frantically to attract their attention, so 
>>> they could put me "virtually in line" until it was my turn, but I was 
>>> delaying the meeting while running to the mike and missing about half what 
>>> was said while returning to my seat.
>>> 
>>> Brian's suggestion could help with that.
>>> 
>>> Spencer, as repeat-offender scribe-for-life
>>> 
>>>> We might need some kind of way handle an in-room participant that doesn’t 
>>>> have a suitable device, but that is a very small minority of in-room 
>>>> participants.
>>>> 
>>>> It may be that the app has to do echo cancel, or maybe we could do it 
>>>> centralized (as long as we can have accurate timing from the source).
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
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