Exactly. Meetecho deploys servers on-site. The delay is usually ~1sec.

Alessandro

Il 11/03/2014 16:15, Brian Rosen ha scritto:
The stream is behind, but if you are on Meetecho, it’s pretty good.

Brian

On Mar 11, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Tom Pusateri <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I was listening to one of the sessions through the live audio
streaming feature of the iPhone IETFers app this week while I was in
the session to just verify the streaming was working from the app.
There was about a 10 second delay between the live audio and the
streaming audio. Joel noted that in addition to audio processing and
conversion, the audio was sent from London to Washington State where
it was replicated back to London.

The delays are important to any form of remote participation. If you
want remote participants to interact with live participants, you must
keep the delay as low as possible or the live participants will give
up on the remote participants. This actually quite difficult to do
well while also scaling to reach lots of remote participants.

It will require extra audio engineering work for each location as well
as delay sensitive network testing.

Tom

On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Alexa Morris <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

One of my colleagues recently showed me this free app:
http://crowdmics.com/ thinking that it might work for the IETF.  It
purports to do just what you are talking about and I've been mulling
over how we might experiment with it (or something similar)

Alexa

On Mar 11, 2014, at 7:52 AM, Spencer Dawkins wrote:


On 03/11/2014 08:00 AM, Brian Rosen wrote:
I’ve been thinking about this, and wonder if we actually could make
this even better.

So, maybe the way we deal with mic is to…get rid of in-room
microphones.
Have an app that runs on phones, laptops and tablets that puts you
in the queue, and you use your device mic to speak, when you are
recognized.

I ended up as note-taker in AQM last week. Even being an AD doesn't
get you out of taking notes :-)

Which leads me to my point. It's a pretty serious disincentive for a
serious participant (and ADs are at least supposed to be paying
attention between e-mails) to volunteer as note-taker if they have
to stand in a mike line holding their laptop open and typing, in
order to say anything.

During the Harald Alvestrand-as-IETF Chair era, I was usually
note-taker for IESG plenaries, and we joked about that being a DOS
attack because if I was sitting down typing, I wasn't standing up
talking (let's ignore whether that was a good thing or a bad thing,
OK?).

Some chairs have let me wave frantically to attract their attention,
so they could put me "virtually in line" until it was my turn, but I
was delaying the meeting while running to the mike and missing about
half what was said while returning to my seat.

Brian's suggestion could help with that.

Spencer, as repeat-offender scribe-for-life

We might need some kind of way handle an in-room participant that
doesn’t have a suitable device, but that is a very small minority
of in-room participants.

It may be that the app has to do echo cancel, or maybe we could do
it centralized (as long as we can have accurate timing from the
source).

Brian

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