On Mar 11, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Alexa Morris <[email protected]> wrote: > One of my colleagues recently showed me this free app: http://crowdmics.com/ > thinking that it might work for the IETF. It purports to do just what you > are talking about and I've been mulling over how we might experiment with it > (or something similar)
Interesting. How does it implement voice? My concern is essentially imposing a cost on a user - roaming charges, which might be nominal for voice (T-Mobile tells me that in most countries it is now $0.20/minute for me, and I would only expect to speak for a minute or two at a time), but could be quite a bit more for data (polls etc). I have a feeling that this expects you to access a web site or such. Yes, we provide WiFi. That would perhaps mitigate costs. But I have also been charged "roaming" charges when using WiFi, as the telephone operator knows when I use it. I would need to disable data use entirely on the towers, which is readily doable if I think about it but is separate from saying "don't roam". > Alexa > > On Mar 11, 2014, at 7:52 AM, Spencer Dawkins wrote: > >> >> On 03/11/2014 08:00 AM, Brian Rosen wrote: >>> I’ve been thinking about this, and wonder if we actually could make this >>> even better. >>> >>> So, maybe the way we deal with mic is to…get rid of in-room microphones. >>> Have an app that runs on phones, laptops and tablets that puts you in the >>> queue, and you use your device mic to speak, when you are recognized. >> >> I ended up as note-taker in AQM last week. Even being an AD doesn't get you >> out of taking notes :-) >> >> Which leads me to my point. It's a pretty serious disincentive for a serious >> participant (and ADs are at least supposed to be paying attention between >> e-mails) to volunteer as note-taker if they have to stand in a mike line >> holding their laptop open and typing, in order to say anything. >> >> During the Harald Alvestrand-as-IETF Chair era, I was usually note-taker for >> IESG plenaries, and we joked about that being a DOS attack because if I was >> sitting down typing, I wasn't standing up talking (let's ignore whether that >> was a good thing or a bad thing, OK?). >> >> Some chairs have let me wave frantically to attract their attention, so they >> could put me "virtually in line" until it was my turn, but I was delaying >> the meeting while running to the mike and missing about half what was said >> while returning to my seat. >> >> Brian's suggestion could help with that. >> >> Spencer, as repeat-offender scribe-for-life >> >>> We might need some kind of way handle an in-room participant that doesn’t >>> have a suitable device, but that is a very small minority of in-room >>> participants. >>> >>> It may be that the app has to do echo cancel, or maybe we could do it >>> centralized (as long as we can have accurate timing from the source). >>> >>> Brian >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NOTE WELL: This list operates according to >> http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html. >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vmeet > > ---------- > Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF > 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 > Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 > Email: [email protected] > > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning > www.amsl.com <http://www.amsl.com/> > > _______________________________________________ > NOTE WELL: This list operates according to > http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html. > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vmeet ---------------------------------------------------- The ignorance of how to use new knowledge stockpiles exponentially. - Marshall McLuhan
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