Alan Ackerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wasn't interested in starting a religious argument -- I just wanted to > point out to Ian that he had alternatives: FILELIST instead of FULIST and > XEDIT instead of the internal BROWSE. > > I was hoping someone with familiarity with all 3 (FILELIST/FULIST/FLIST) > would jump in and explain why FULIST is better (if it is). Otherwise, > there's not much point in asking IBM to release FULIST. Ditto for the > internal BROWSE versus XEDIT/BROWSE. > > Anyone who has seen it -- what's so great about FULIST?
recent refs: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#39 FULIST http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#40 FULIST http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#41 FULIST http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#42 FULIST big thing about fulist, browse, ios3270, ... were that they were small, compact, and extremely efficient. early on fulist & browse would fit in 8k. this contributed to making early ports to ibm/pc environment so easy. by the time filelist came around, fulist had gained some amount of maturity and it was straight-forward for people to do a fulist clone in the filelist implementation (as well as rdrlist). this is analogous to my comments about doing dumprx as a dumpscan clone ... using rexx (and eventually offering both line-mode and xedit-mode) ... although offering 10-times the function and 10-times the performance (some slight of hand to get significant increased efficiency in interpreted rexx over hard coded assembler). past references http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#dumprx small, compact and extremely efficient used to be a lot more important than it is now. i frequently now work in gnuemacs ... and regularly use dir (and nobody will claim that gnuemacs is small, compact, and extremely efficient). at one point i had done a green/blue/yellow card implementation in ios3270 ... these days it would be done in html and use a browser (again significantly more bloated implementation than ios3720).. blue card was for 360/67 and had the virtual memory add-ons to base 360, but there was a lot of spare ... so it threw in detailed sense information for various devices) ... minor past reference: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#60 Living legends it isn't so much an either/or regarding FULIST and FILELIST ... modulo the compact/efficiency issues. FULIST was relatively mature by the time people started making clones of it, like FILELIST (the old line about imitation being the sincerest form of flattery). another example is vmsg. vmsg was one of the early email clients (and all assembler implementation). . something like a version 0.6 of the code was borrowed by the PROFs group and used as the guts of PROFs mail handling. Later when an issue was raised as to the origin of the PROFS code ... it was pointed out that every PROFS message in the world had the initials of the VMSG author as a comment addenda out at the end of the tag field. in any case, after some years, I did a VMSG-clone implemented in REXX and XEDIT. Later, I added SMTP/RFC822 input/output processing. misc. past postings w/vmsg reference: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#35 why is there an "@" key? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#46 Does the word "mainframe" still have a meaning? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#35 Newbie TOPS-10 7.03 question http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#39 Newbie TOPS-10 7.03 question http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#40 Newbie TOPS-10 7.03 question http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#14 Mail system scalability (Was: Re: Itanium troubles) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#58 history of CMS http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#64 history of CMS http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#4 HONE, ****, misc http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#34 VSE (Was: Re: Refusal to change was Re: LE and COBOL) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#45 hyperblock drift, was filesystem structure (long warning) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#65 801 (was Re: Reviving Multics http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#56 Goodbye PROFS http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#13 Mainframe Virus ???? -- Anne & Lynn Wheeler | http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/
