The only thing I can say about all of this is that one
can never have enough SPOOL space. Even with SFPURGER
running every day like clock-work, I have had to
allocate additional SPOOL space for our user
community.  Therefore, I believe a full volume for
spool space is not unreasonable. The other volume
could probably be divided between paging and TEMP
space (I think the install falls a little short on
TEMP space but every shop is different). 



--- Jim Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> With the distinct possibility of having the Wrath of
> Chuckie turn my way, I
> disagree with a bit of this.  First a disclaimer:
> The following works for
> me and is only recommended if you are comfortable
> with z/VM and know it's
> knobs and buttons.
> 
> I AGREE that doing full-volume page/spool is a wise
> decision for 95%+ z/VM
> installations.  Most folks aren't twisted enough to
> do code-merging like I
> do.  So if this brand-spanking new z/VM system will
> be built into a
> running, usable environment you certainly DO want
> full-volume spool and
> paging.   I also agree that this is still an OS that
> will need paging space
> - probably will for a long time until memory is free
> and everyone has 9PB
> on their z9**999.
> 
> We are a bit DASD constrained to the point where I
> would rather not beg for
> more DASD for installing, especially since we
> install the GA code, do the
> RSU update to it and then -merge- the code into our
> existing
> test/production systems.   Once that is done, I
> don't need the extra
> volume(s) for anything but a handy backup of the
> original data.
> 
> For installing z/VM 5.2, we have a full Mod3 for the
> RES, and one for W01.
> The rest are as follows:
> 
> MDISK 1002 3390  xxxxx 00125 VMB028 MR *W02
> MDISK 1003 3390  xxxxx 00225 VMB028 MR *SPOOL
> MDISK 1004 3390  xxxxx 00350 VMB028 MR *PAGE
> 
> And this works GREAT.  Page could probably live with
> a lower number since
> we don't really do any other work than MAINT stuff
> but 50 cyls for page is
> probably pushing it too low.  Note that the W02
> volume is a little ?! less
> than a full Mod 3.  Everything that would be on that
> volume fits nicely in
> the 125 cyls.
> 
> In your case with a MOD 9 for RES you don't need to
> worry about any Wxx
> volumes though.  You could get fancy and do a
> one-pack install, but that's
> another story.
> 
> Bottom line is, z/VM 5 makes it easier to 'massage'
> the DDR installation on
> a second level guest so that you can define disks
> based on what you need.
> KNOWING what you need is key though.  Your mileage
> may vary offline...
> 
> _______________________________________
> James Vincent
> Systems Engineering Consultant
> Nationwide Services Co., Technology Infrastructure
> Engineering
> Mainframe, z/VM and z/Linux Support
> One Nationwide Plaza  3-25-02
> Columbus OH 43215-2220   U.S.A
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> 
> 
> VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions
> <[email protected]> wrote on 01/20/2006
> 12:31:07 PM:
> 
> > [email protected]
> >
> > On Friday, 01/20/2006 at 11:02 EST, "James G.
> Stracka"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > For the z/VM 5.2.0 installation I shall be doing
> it 2nd level.  I want
> > > to use a 3390-9 for the Res volume and would
> like to use a 50 cylinder
> > > volume for the PAGE pack and a 1000 cylinder
> volume for the SPOOL pack.
> > >
> > > Will a 50 cylinder and 1000 cylinder volumes do
> for the installation
> > > or must those two be full 3390-3 for the
> installation then moved later?
> >
> > You must supply the volumes indicated for
> installation.  You can move
> them
> > later.
> >
> > > Since 5.1.0 and I assume 5.2.0 does not need to
> page, it would be nice
> > > if the paging volume could be optionally skipped
> at installation.
> >
> > Not need to page?  Eh?  Who says?  VM needs to
> page the instant virtual
> > machine memory plus memory used by CP exceeds the
> size of the LPAR.
> >
> > The point of making each a 3390-3 was to answer
> the numerous complaints
> > about the spooling/paging volumes being too small
> to really start using
> > VM.
> >
> > Alan Altmark
> > z/VM Development
> > IBM Endicott
> 


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