I second (or third) the motion to consider VDISK.  \

For years I was worried that it would swamp our limited real storage (1G). 
 But in real-life experience it has been FANTASTIC!  Even with two 3390-3s 
reserved for TDISK, we used to frequently run into fragmentation. 
Formatting VDISK is instantaneous (regardless of size), and the I/O is 
awesome (no moving parts!).

We've had a local TDISK EXEC here since almost day one.  It just took a 
small change, defaulting to VDISK (but allowed options to force it to be 
allocated on with VDISK or TDISK).  Happier (much) users, no more 
fragmentation.  Virtual life's great.

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.




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Mary,

If you have sufficient paging space, you might consider using V-disk 
instead of T-disk. As Nick pointed out, they are not subject to 
fragmentation and the limits for the individual users and the system as a 
whole can be set and adjusted dynamically. If you are not already paging 
constrained and you have the space, it might be a way out of the 
fragmentation problem. Look under HELP CP DEFINE (RELATED and select 
VDISK. You may also need to set limits using SET VDISK.

We have been using V-disk in place of T-disk for the past several years 
and have never had a problem with it.

 -----Original Message-----
From:            VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Mary Zervos
Sent:            Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:43 AM
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Subject:                 Re: Tdisk question

Thanks Jim for the insight.  I had forgotten about fragmentation.

Mary

Jim Bohnsack wrote:

> Mary--What you're seeing is fragmentation.  TDISK is allocated in one 
> whole piece to a user.  Think of PC disk allocation that you see when 
> you run a defrag.  If you have 1 allocated cylinder out in the middle 
> of an otherwise empty 100 cylinder TDISK space, you cannot allocate a 
> 99 cyl TDISK.  You would get that by the first user getting 50 
> cylinders and the 2nd user getting 1 cylinder.  When the first user 
> detaches the 50 cyl. disk, the 2nd user still has the 1 cyl in the 
> middle.  You are left with 99 cylnders in total free but you can only 
> allocate a max of 50 cylinders and 49 cylinders.
>
> Jim
>
> At 09:17 AM 1/24/2006, you wrote:
>
>> I have 500 cyl. of tdisk defined on one pack and 50 cyl. of tdisk 
>> defined on another.  One user used the 50 cyl. on the second pack 
>> and about 24 users have used 215 cyl.(43%used) on the first pack. 
>> Why is it that I can only allocate a 130 cyl. maximum tdisk on the 
>> first pack but can then go ahead and allocate a 110 cyl. tdisk, 
>> instead of being able to allocate *one* 240 cyl. tdisk?
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> Mary Zervos
>> VM Systems Programmer
>> Binghamton University
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Jim Bohnsack
> Cornell Univ.
> (607) 255-1760




 
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