> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig A. Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 4:15 PM
> To: Henderson, Jordan
> Cc: 'Vmsperl (E-mail)'
> Subject: test builds (was RE: Building 5.8.0 problem)
> 
> 
> At 5:01 PM -0400 9/19/02, Henderson, Jordan wrote:
> 
> > It
> >occurs to me that I'm in a good position to smoke test perl 
> builds here.  I
> >think I have access to at least 6 and possibly more 
> different combinations of
> >OS's, C compilers and MMS/MMK.  Hmmm... We will be upgrading 
> those 7.1 systems
> >soon, so we'll be back to 5 or more.  Now that I think of 
> it, I only have 3 or 4
> >that really wouldn't attract any attention if I ran 
> something like this.  The
> >developers on the other configurations might complain about 
> such a use.
> 
> Unless the developers stay up 24 hours a day, there's no reason to
> build while they are working.  Of course they may have there own
> build jobs that run overnight.

You would think, but these people are very protective of their machines...
And, they're likely to be running 24x7 testing with a parallel feed of
production data at just any time.  If they feel that there is any way that 
other uses for these machines _might_ impact their testing, they'll shut me 
down.

Discretion, valor, etc.

> 
> >Only VAX I have access to these days is one I have turned 
> off at home, though.
> >:-(
> 
> I'm sure there are those here who, if supplied the exact model number
> and configuration details, could offer appropriate advice on locating
> the power switch :-).
> 
> >Maybe I'll try and get an automated build against the 
> bleedperl going with my
> >"farm".  What would be a good frequency to run such a thing? 
>  How often are
> >there new bleedperls, typically?
> 
> It depends on what you mean by a "new bleadperl".  Every patch that's
> applied gets a number assigned and the Perl at the latest patchlevel
> is bleadperl.  The canonical method for building bleadperl is to use
> rsynch to extract the latest source from the repository, but I don't
> think there is an rsynch for VMS.  This is all described better and
> more authoritatively in
> 
> $ perdock perlhack
> 
> or
> 
> <http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.8.0/pod/perlhack.html>
> 
> The downloadable snapshots are supplied by the pumpking at varying
> intervals; at the moment it's about every two weeks I think, but will
> get more frequent when there is a release pending.  You can see what
> snapshots are available by looking at:
> 
> <http://www.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/snap/>

I guess that's more what I'd be interested in...  I wouldn't want to 
build every after every patch.

> 
> The automated smoke reports are generated by a special extension
> created for that purpose:
> 
> <http://search.cpan.org/author/ABELTJE/Test-Smoke-1.15/>
> 
> It would be really nice to get that extension ported to VMS so we
> would simply show up in the reports.  Getting Test::Smoke ported
> might require divorcing it from rsynch and making it work with
> snapshots, but I don't remember for sure.
> -- 
> ________________________________________
> Craig A. Berry
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> "... getting out of a sonnet is much more
>  difficult than getting in."
>                  Brad Leithauser
> 

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