On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Michael G Schwern wrote: > On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 07:27:43AM -0500, John E. Malmberg wrote: > > I had to dedicate an RF72 on my VAX 4000-500 in order to do a debug > > build. I can not afford to add more disks to my hobby system, as all > > three DSSI bays are full, and I do not have a DSSI to SCSI converter. > > > > Disk space can be a premium on older or hobby systems. > > > > I have run out of disk space on two systems that I have attempted to do > > debug builds. > > Obviously I am missing something. Can't you pick up a used 10 gig IDE disk > for $20 these days?
The adapters to connect it to a VAX that does not have built in SCSI will cost at least $300 to $1000 for the Q-BUS to SCSI (used and apparently still in high demand) + the IDE to SCSI converter which was a few hundred $ the last time I checked with no one yet admitting to have gotten that unspported configuration to work. Some of the IDE to SCSI converters are known not to work with OpenVMS because they have not implmented the SCSI features that OpenVMS uses. A Russian posted the schematics for their Q-BUS to IDE adapter on the Internet a few years back. The drivers are only for 4.x of VAX/VMS. Only some of the later generation of Alpha systems can take IDE drives, and then they are limited to 137 GB. > Just how big are these debug builds? The one that I just got completed is showing to be 1.37 GB in size. Out of a 4 GB disk. I notice that there is some mention in the documenation of Perl that indicates that it is currently about 80 MB of source. > Or are we talking some really old hardware here? Old OpenVMS systems seem to stick around for ever. :-) -John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal Opinion Only