Someone asked me off-list where to get the pre-release version. You can grab snapshots here:
http://mirrors.develooper.com/perl/APC/perl-5.8.x-snap/ You'll have to rename the directory unpacked from the tarball to get the dots out of the name. Configure and build with $ @configure -"Dusevmsdebug" -"Duseithreads" -"des" $ mms/macro=__DEBUG__=1 and you'll get the threaded version that is having the problem as well as compiler listings, linker maps, and debug versions of the perl executable. -- ________________________________________ Craig A. Berry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser