Karen,

I don't understand.  What do you mean by "reboot vnc ritual"?  I assume that
you have modified the xstartup script to start gnome and have then started a
new VNC session using the vncserver script?  Are you saying that that still
runs twm somehow?

Regards,

Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: listbox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 29 August 2005 20:45
> To: James Weatherall
> Subject: Re: unusable black box
> 
> No-joy :(. Thanks anyways. And now I have to delete my .vnc 
> files and do my 
> reboot vnc ritual.
> 
> Karen
> http://bluehairedgirl.com/
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "listbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "James Weatherall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 7:31 AM
> Subject: Re: unusable black box
> 
> 
> > Hi James,
> >
> > I will try that when I get back from my weekend trip.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Karen
> > http://scootgirl.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "James Weatherall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'listbox'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'John Aldrich'" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:46 AM
> > Subject: RE: unusable black box
> >
> >
> >> Karen,
> >>
> >> The xstartup script is run whenever you start a new VNC 
> desktop with the
> >> vncserver command, and simply lists the set of programs to 
> run in the new
> >> desktop.  There is nothing more to it than that.
> >>
> >> If you want to run Gnome rather than the twm window 
> manager, just replace
> >> the "twm" command with the command to start Gnome (which is usually
> >> gnome-session).
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of listbox
> >>> Sent: 20 August 2005 05:18
> >>> To: John Aldrich; [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: unusable black box
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm still getting the same old crapy black screen. This has
> >>> ***got*** be a
> >>> bug let me tell you.
> >>>
> >>> BTW, this is the default xstartup script (which looks nothing
> >>> like yours)
> >>> that I get when starting vncserver when no xstartup file is
> >>> present in the
> >>> /home/user/.vnc folder:
> >>>
> >>> #!/bin/sh
> >>>
> >>> # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop:
> >>> # unset SESSION_MANAGER
> >>> # exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
> >>>
> >>> [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vnc/xstartup
> >>> [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources
> >>> xsetroot -solid grey
> >>> vncconfig -iconic &
> >>> xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop"
> >>> & twm & #xstartup end
> >>>
> >>> When I use this rank default xstartup script I get an almost
> >>> equally useless
> >>> green box with a cli. I would love to someday have a useable
> >>> - and reliable
> >>> gnome desktop and not a waste of screen real-estate.
> >>>
> >>> Any other ideas? Perhaps a more reliable way to situate the
> >>> xstartup script
> >>> so that I can use gnome?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Karen
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "John Aldrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: "'listbox'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 12:48 PM
> >>> Subject: RE: unusable black box
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > I'm just using the default:
> >>> >
> >>> > #!/bin/sh
> >>> >
> >>> > # Red Hat Linux VNC session startup script
> >>> > exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
> >>> > xstartup (END)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > 'Course, I also have a script that I wrote to help get 
> the session
> >>> > running the way I like it... vncserver -depth 16bpp
> >>> -geometry 1024x768
> >>> > -nevershared -localhost
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: listbox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 3:38 PM
> >>> > To: John Aldrich; [email protected]
> >>> > Subject: Re: unusable black box
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi, here is my xstartup file:
> >>> >
> >>> > #!/bin/sh
> >>> >
> >>> > # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop: 
> vncconfig
> >>> > -nowin unset SESSION_MANAGER
> >>> > exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
> >>> >
> >>> > [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vnc/xstartup
> >>> > [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources
> >>> > xsetroot -solid grey
> >>> > vncconfig -iconic &
> >>> > xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP 
> Desktop" & twm &
> >>> >
> >>> > Everything else is stock. What does your xstartup file 
> look like?
> >>> >
> >>> > Karen
> >>> > http://scootgirl.com/
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > From: "John Aldrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> > To: "'listbox'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "James Weatherall"
> >>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
> >>> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:46 AM
> >>> > Subject: RE: unusable black box
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >>I am running Fedora Core 3 and do not have that problem 
> myself, even
> >>> >>though
> >>> >> I use a script with a similar command to kill my VNC
> >>> server. I can stop
> >>> >> and
> >>> >> restart my VNC server as frequently as I like, and not
> >>> have a problem.
> >>> >> Maybe
> >>> >> a configuration error, but not a bug with VNC or Fedora as
> >>> best I can
> >>> >> tell.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >> Behalf Of listbox
> >>> > [snip]
> >>> >> Hi James,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I stop the vncserver like this:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> vncserver -kill :1
> >>> >>
> >>> >> and then when I restart vncserver I get the fun (not)
> >>> black box. What
> >>> >> makes this odd though is it's not every time but enough to
> >>> get highly
> >>> >> annoying.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> This has got to be a bug with VNC or FCx, or both,
> >>> considering I had
> >>> >> the identical problem with FC3.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Karen
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> >> From: "James Weatherall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> >> [snip]
> >>> >>> Karen,
> >>> >>> That looks like what you'll get if you log out of KDE or
> >>> Gnome, but
> >>> >>> don't
> >>> >>> in
> >>> >>> fact kill your VNC server at all.  How are you killing
> >>> the VNC server?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Regards,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >> [snip]
> >>> >>>> Hi list,
> >>> >>>> ever since I've started using Fedora core 3 (and now
> >>> Core 4), I've
> >>> >>>> had this frustrating issue with VNC. Every time I need
> >>> to kill the
> >>> >>>> vncserver, when I
> >>> >>>> restart it I get this crazy unusable black box with an "X"
> >>> >>>> for a cursor
> >>> >>>> (ala: http://tinypic.com/adyuxl.png )
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> My "work-around" has been to delete the .vnc/ directory
> >>> and start
> >>> >>>> anew which is a pain in the butt let me tell you!
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> So why is this happening? It never happened on BSD, so
> >>> why now on
> >>> >>>> FC4?
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Please help!
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Karen 
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