Right. All these products are doing is doing the NPA-NXX lookup AFTER the LNP lookup. The NPA-NXX of the LRN is the carrier of record. If it's a cell phone company NPA/NXX you're dealing with a cellphone.

-Paul

On 08/19/2015 07:25 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
Their lists are already cleaned by NPA-NXX, it's just not sufficient any more because of LNP. Looks like the TCPA compliance product from Neustar, which someone else posted yesterday, is the best solution. Pretty cheap too. It's just indicates intermodal porting of a number with no other info.


On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:40 PM Paul Timmins <p...@timmins.net <mailto:p...@timmins.net>> wrote:

    I know a guy who runs a site that sells the npa nxx to carrier
    type at a fraction of the lerg costs....

    On Aug 19, 2015 11:39 AM, Alex Balashov <abalas...@evaristesys.com
    <mailto:abalas...@evaristesys.com>> wrote:
    >
    > ‎Indeed, you'd start from the NPAC, which would get you, for a
    given TN, an LRN. Then what?
    > ‎
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    > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with
    guaranteed accuracy
    >
    > If I were to offer this service or database access, I would
    start with my own local copy of NPAC that I'd update every
    X-minutes a day.  This product is available now and has been for a
    while.  This is the only sure-way, I know of, to have the most
    accurate data to work from.
    >
    > Kidd
    >
    > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Carlos Alvarez
    <caalva...@gmail.com <mailto:caalva...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    > I have a customer in market research who is legally required to
    manually dial calls to cell phones.  Right now they are
    considering abandoning all of their auto/predictive dialer
    software and going to manual dial for everything, because the
    list-scrubbing services have been shown to be inaccurate.  There
    are extreme penalties for auto-dialing a cell phone, and "best
    effort" is NOT a defense to this, at all.  For example, Gallup
    just settle a claim for $12M.
    >
    > So they need a totally accurate way to prevent a cell phone call
    from originating from their dialer.  The only thing I can think of
    is some sort of LRN dip + LRN-to-carrier-type response.  One of
    their people talked to Neustar, but didn't get great answers
    because he doesn't really understand telephony.  Before I get in
    touch with Neustar, I thought I'd see if people here have some ideas.
    >
    > If you provide a commercial product for this, please feel free
    to tell me so on or off list, the customer is willing to pay for
    the service and we're open to all options.  I don't have a budget
    number yet but manual dialing is going to cost them quite a bit
    for some types of studies.
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