This sounds like a carrier with a lot of SIP peers, which is already a thing that exists today. It also requires a lot of time and work to build, because you need some traffic for the other side to justify the cost to interconnect with you.
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023, 5:05 PM Jawaid Bazyar via VoiceOps < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > I am joining this thread late, but, would anyone out there be interested > in exchanging traffic with other carriers directly over SIP? > > The service would just look like a carrier, except it would know how to > reach all other participants directly with SIP, bypassing TDM land, and > enabling rich media as a fringe benefit, as media would be direct between > endpoints. > > I have a proof of concept and am wondering who out there might be willing > to do some testing. > > Email me directly if interested, to talk about your network and how > something like this might fit in. > > Cheers, > > Jawaid > > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 1:49 PM Mary Lou Carey via VoiceOps < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> If you already have SS7 services via Sigtran then going into a Frontier >> area would just be a matter of adding another SS7 for that tandem. >> >> MARY LOU CAREY >> BackUP Telecom Consulting >> Office: 615-791-9969 >> Cell: 615-796-1111 >> >> On 2023-10-12 11:42 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> > *nods* We take SIGTRAN over IPSec over the public Internet, then >> > convert to SS7 over DS1s in some old Ciscos. >> > >> > ----- >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >> > http://www.ics-il.com >> > >> > Midwest Internet Exchange >> > http://www.midwest-ix.com >> > >> > ------------------------- >> > >> > From: "Nick Olsen" <[email protected]> >> > To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> >> > Cc: "Mary Lou Carey" <[email protected]>, "voiceops" >> > <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 6:04:03 PM >> > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape >> > >> > We use them at $DAYJOB. We've had no issues with syniverse themselves >> > in the recent years while I've been at the company. But plenty of >> > issues with the transport providers to reach them. Luckily never both >> > at the same time. Including a number of instances of flapping. Note, >> > these are A-Links over TDM, not SIGTRAN at this time. >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 4:22 PM Mike Hammett via VoiceOps >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Anyone in here using Syniverse for these services and can speak to >> >> their reliability? >> >> >> >> ----- >> >> Mike Hammett >> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> http://www.midwest-ix.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------- >> >> >> >> From: "Mary Lou Carey" <[email protected]> >> >> To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> >> >> Cc: "voiceops" <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 11:59:14 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape >> >> >> >> There are pros and cons to everything. It sounds like in your case >> >> you >> >> may just want to keep your ISUP trunks and SS7 links, but maybe look >> >> at >> >> another provider for SS7. Syniverse is also an option but I'm not >> >> sure >> >> if their service has gone downhill like TNS' apparently has. >> >> >> >> MARY LOU CAREY >> >> BackUP Telecom Consulting >> >> Office: 615-791-9969 >> >> Cell: 615-796-1111 >> >> >> >> On 2022-01-25 10:38 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >>> Right, but as I said earlier, I'm already in the same building as >> >> the >> >>> tandem, so I'm just adding points of failure for moving an >> >> existing >> >>> operation somewhere else. >> >>> >> >>> ----- >> >>> Mike Hammett >> >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >>> http://www.ics-il.com >> >>> >> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------- >> >>> >> >>> From: "Mary Lou Carey" <[email protected]> >> >>> To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> >> >>> Cc: "Paul Timmins" <[email protected]>, "voiceops" >> >>> <[email protected]> >> >>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2022 10:42:22 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape >> >>> >> >>> When you use a PSTN connection provider you route your traffic to >> >> them >> >>> >> >>> via SIP and they handle all the SS7 so you can eliminate your >> >> direct >> >>> LIS >> >>> trunks with the LEC and your SS7 Links. >> >>> >> >>> MARY LOU CAREY >> >>> BackUP Telecom Consulting >> >>> Office: 615-791-9969 >> >>> Cell: 615-796-1111 >> >>> >> >>> On 2022-01-23 05:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >>>> Well right, but wouldn't I still need all of the same stuff >> >> (perhaps >> >>> a >> >>>> few less trunks to specific switches, only now I have fewer >> >> minutes >> >>> to >> >>>> spread the costs over? >> >>>> >> >>>> ----- >> >>>> Mike Hammett >> >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >> >>>> >> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >> >>>> >> >>>> ------------------------- >> >>>> >> >>>> From: "Paul Timmins" <[email protected]> >> >>>> To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> >> >>>> Cc: "voiceops" <[email protected]> >> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2022 12:01:01 AM >> >>>> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape >> >>>> >> >>>> Even without IPES you can switch your feature group D to voip >> >>> through >> >>>> these aggregators and get rid of basically everything that isn't >> >> the >> >>>> local LEC's legacy network. >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Jan 22, 2022, at 7:03 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Sure, but then I just transfer the problem to someone else, >> >> until >> >>>>> the traditional PSTN goes away or modernizes. I am working on >> >> IPES >> >>>>> for expansion markets, though. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Also, for my home LATA, I'm needing to be in the same building >> >> as >> >>>>> the primary tandem, so it's kind of a selling point for large >> >>>>> customers in that area that I would have fewer opportunities for >> >>>>> failures. I don't have to go to Chicago and back to get to the >> >>>>> operator in the next row of racks over. Though, I suppose my SS7 >> >>>>> diversity and availability is the weakness, not the actual call >> >>>>> path. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ----- >> >>>>> Mike Hammett >> >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com [1] >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com [2] >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ------------------------- >> >>>>> >> >>>>> From: "Paul Timmins" <[email protected]> >> >>>>> To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> >> >>>>> Cc: "voiceops" <[email protected]> >> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2022 1:46:46 PM >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Reduce your reliance on it more and more. Switch to IP tandems >> >>>>> (Inteliquent/Peerless/etc) and ip interconnect. The people who >> >> make >> >>>>> and support SS7 equipment are in a dying market, the brain drain >> >> on >> >>>>> it is immense as people retire, and the longer you rely on it, >> >> the >> >>>>> worse it's gonna get. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> TNS is a big dog in the space. But that's not saying much >> >> anymore. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Jan 22, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Mike Hammett >> >> <[email protected]> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> We currently get our SS7 via TNS. I (maybe incorrectly) >> >> understand >> >>>>>> them to be a big dog in that space. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I've had two major problems with them in six months. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> What are my alternatives? Are they less pleasant? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> ----- >> >>>>>> Mike Hammett >> >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com [1] >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >>>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com [2] >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> VoiceOps mailing list >> >>>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Links: >> >>>> ------ >> >>>> [1] http://www.ics-il.com/ >> >>>> [2] http://www.midwest-ix.com/ >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> VoiceOps mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> VoiceOps mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops >> _______________________________________________ >> VoiceOps mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops >> > _______________________________________________ > VoiceOps mailing list > [email protected] > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops >
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