Oh boy, that's quite a collection of service notes, and quite some can of 
worms:-)
Thanks for the link, I've not seen any of those before and wonder why they 
don't include them on the 34970A documentation page?

For me the good news is that my later unit with vented case has a US... serial 
number so shouldn't be affected by the drifting resistor problem.The not so 
good news is that I do have firmware version 11.

Do you have a type number for a suitable eeprom?, I have a variety of adapters 
for my Leaper48 programmer so might be able to program it, although that issue 
does look to be a quite specific problem that might be easy enough to avoid 
once aware of it.

Another bit of not so good news, I've just noticed my rotary encoder has become 
very intermittent.
Ho hum, there's just never an end to the fun:-)

Nigel, GM8PZR
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. David Kirkby <[email protected]>
To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement <[email protected]>
CC: gandalfg8 <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 17:44
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] How should I clean a 400 k ohm resistor?

On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 16:33, Nigel Clarke via volt-nuts <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Are we still talking about the HP 34970A data acquisition unit?
>

Yes Nigel,


> I have a service note for the 34401A DMM, ref 34401A-05A dated October
> 1994, that refers to this 400K resistor and/or a 40K resistor of the same
> type causing problems in some 34401As by ageing out of spec, but although
> the 34970A internal DMM is based on the 34401A I do not recall having seen
> a similar service note for the 34970A.
>

There are quite a number of service notes for the 34970A here

https://servicenotes.literature.keysight.com/litapp/SearchSN.do?method=openExternalSNSearch&prodNum=34970A

The particular one I should probably address is "10 MegOhm and 100 MegOhm
ranges drift out of specification due to the Ohm's current source reference
resistor. This resistor may change in value with time"

http://literature.cdn.keysight.com/litweb/pdf/34970A-13.pdf

It applies to these serial numbers

MY41003000 / MY41014500
SG41002300 / SG41007600

I have no idea if my S/N falls into one of those ranges, and I don't have
any 10 or 100 M ohm resistors of known value. I wish I had a 3458A! The
best course of action is probably to replace the resistor. Mine is an old
HP unit, so I suspect it was made in the USA, so its S/N it outside those
ranges, but I don#t know.

There's another issue that may affect you too, regarding a problem on
resistance measurements on 50 Hz mains supplies. That needs a firmware
upgrade. I have version 12 of the firmware if you are able to blow the
PROM, but you will need a pretty decent programmer for that, as its not a
common DIL chip. A version 13 PROM is available for about $45, but Keysight
UK will replace the PROM free of charge if the instrument is sent for
calibration.

Another problem is a safety issue.

 I may of course have missed it, and I don't know when my 34970A was
> manufactured although what might be an original hP cal sticker suggests
> c2001, but I don't recall either seeing any reference the 34970A in HP
> catalogues prior to c1998 so have always assumed that no 34970As would be
> affected.
>



>
> Nigel, GM8PZR
>

Dave

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