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Subject: RE: NKS 2006 Wolfram Science Conference


The bottom line is that the overwhelming complexity of the manifest universe

is arguably the result of the operation of something as simple as cellular
automata, and that we have no hope of discovering the nature of that seed.

Mike Carrell

How's that? Prove it. Do we all give up and go home? Sounds like post-modern
science.
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As I said, there is no substitiute for tackling Wolfram's book. There just isn't. The argument is advanced by the hundreds of illustarions of the operation of the cellular automata. This does not fit into any existing tidy boxes except deterministic chaos theory, which is not tidy.

As for not being able to discover the seed, consider the Mandelbrot Set. The operation of the generating equation produces a mathematical "object" of extreme complexity. However, examining the object will not disclose the equation which generated it. The Mandelbrot Set and Wolfram's cellular automata have the common feature that the generating operations are non-linear and recursive. A seminal book on the consequences of this is "Godel Escher Bach".

A remarkable feature of Wolfram's thesis is that the product of the the cellular automata can be some order as found in our scientific exploration of natural phenomena.

I'm not sure what the term "post modern" means, especially when applied to science. Certainly Wolfram's work is a new bemchmark among many other current studies of deterministic chaos and cellular automata.

Mike Carrell

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