I figured the MEG was just reactive/power factor stuff.

My hypothesis is that overunity could exist but only involving brief transients 
- because otherwise, our universe would end up as a white hot mass of extra 
energy everywhere.

Some German engineer wrote a paper claiming he replicated Ide's results.

I also wonder about "zero point energy" as needing a 'place where it ain't' and 
no one seems to bring that up.  Rather like tremendous pressure at the bottom 
of the ocean - it's all around but useless to generate anything because you  
need a lesser pressure to create a difference. So, if overunity is real, 
perhaps another dimension is involved to provide a transient difference in 
charge or pressure or whatever to make it work.

From: Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2023 1:55 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide

Corrected

http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm

On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:46 PM Terry Blanton 
<hohlr...@gmail.com<mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
JL Naudin never found an OU device he didn't like.  He did tons on the MEG

Https://www.jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm<https://www.jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm>

On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:07 PM Terry Blanton 
<hohlr...@gmail.com<mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Reminds me of Tom Bearden's MEG, motionless electromagnetic generator.

As a EE since 1977,  my experience has shown "OU" on these devices are not 
measuring the area under the VxI waveform that is non-sinusoidal properly and 
have shown these flaws with a digital oscilloscope and a sampling resistor more 
than once.

It does not please the "inventor".

On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:40 PM Chris Zell 
<chrisz...@wetmtv.com<mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com>> wrote:
Can this be real?  One of those 'hiding in plain sight" rarities?

I see good journal articles and claims of replications and yet............ (cue 
crickets sound)

From: Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com<mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2023 12:27 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Osamu Ide

A patent app on an OU transformer:

US20130009625A1

On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 12:06 PM Terry Blanton 
<hohlr...@gmail.com<mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Here's his original article from the Journal of Applied Physics

Https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf<https://www.rexresearch.com/ide/jap77.pdf>

On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:50 AM Chris Zell 
<chrisz...@wetmtv.com<mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com>> wrote:

Does anybody know what the deal is with this guy?  He claims overunity  and 
there appears to be some replication. He's been published in some really good 
journals across years.  What's the story?


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