Grimer wrote.
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> At 06:59 am 30/04/2006 -0600, Fred wrote:
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> > As strange as the Joe Cell - Hydrino Orgone "presentations" are, 
> > ignorance may very well be bliss, as Frank Grimer suggests. 
>
>
> He has indeed deposuit potentes de sede et exaltavit humiles.
>
I hope you're not insulting me in your style of English.
>
> > Hydrino is a catchy name for a "Weakly Interacting Massive 
> > Particle" WIMP, created by transitory exposure to the low 
> > pressure "soft vacuum" ........
>
> In terms of the Beta-atmosphere that should be "hard vacuum".
> See explanation below.
>
Okay, Frank. By "soft vacuum" I was referring to residual atoms-molecules
with enough mean-free-path "spacing" to allow hard vacuum interaction with
them
viz the Casimir plates pushing together, usually the force is measured in a
good vacuum.
> 
> > That is to say, low pressure electrolysis cells that provide 
> > the heat of vaporization of the water and also use the 
> > evaporated water vapor H2O as a carrier for the generated 
> > OH and H or H3O free radicals which may concurrently be 
> > "expanding or contracting due to Casimir-Vacuum ZPE effects
> > with the low "Cell" pressures (~ 60 liters/gram vapour 
> > densities) created by the engine suction/manifold pressure.
>
>  
> Yep. I think our ideas are slowly converging and we are 
> getting there. As shown by what I call the PV^6 relation
>
> (but what might be more intelligible if I called it the
>    B-atm.pressure + applied pressure)^6 = a constant
>    where B-atm.pressure is approx. 4000 atmospheres)
>
Hal Puthoff once told me that the Casimir Plate force was 1/D^4
Does that come out the same, or could the be seeing electromagnetic
interaction?
Van der waals forces are 6th -12th power aren't they?
>
> there is a hard B-atm vacuum of -60,000 psi in the spaces
> between the water molecule/clusters and this is responsible
> for the unrecognised physics. Think of it at very low 
> temperature which shrinks thingees or the inverse, very 
> high Compreture which squashes thingees.   8-)
>
Right, Frank. Thanks for staying on topic. :-)

Fred
>
> Cheers,
>
> Frank
>
>



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