At 06:17 pm 15/06/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>Grimer wrote:
>
>>The theological virtue of Faith (belief without doubting) may be 
>>appropriate for  religion, but it has no place in science.
>
>Here is what has no place in science:
>
>Claims unsupported by experimental proof.
>
>These include the often repeated claims that you can extract energy 
>from magnets, or HTSC, or Orgones, without a primary source of 
>nuclear, chemical or mechanical energy. Unless someone can offer 
>serious experimental proof of such claims, I do not think we should 
>take them seriously.
>
>Putting aside all discusssion of dipole magnetic moment and quantum 
>mechanical theory, I think we should all agree that on the 
>macroscopic level magnets act just the way springs do, 

In so far as neither are perfectly elastic, I agree.

> and there is no known method of extracting energy from them.

True, but I believe there are unknown methods and people 
searching for them should be encouraged and their claims
approached with an open mind; not the closed mind of
the Porksies of this world.

Frank



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