Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > > Paul wrote: >> Michel Jullian wrote: >> > Paul, I suggest you try and do some simple physics >> derivations (analytically) without >> > the help of PE, and post them here. Max speed >> reached by the ball in a pendulum released >> > at an angle of 90° from the vertical as a function >> of string length, this kind of stuff. >> >> >> I've adapted my own style of physics and retired the >> pen and paper, lol. IMHO the future of physics is computer software. >> Computers are best >> at mathematics, speed, and memory. I view the Omniverse as one large >> computer. As far as >> PE, my present simulation software has no such magical PE. What I've >> described here at >> vortex is one thing, but only if you could experience what I've >> experienced through >> simulations. For example, it is well known that the electron is >> expressed in Ampere-Meter^2. Therefore what else are you going to use >> to simulate electron spin? Well, it turns out >> such current-loops form a magnetic dipole moment in space. Furthermore >> two current-loops >> rotate facing each other while accelerating toward each. Last, but not >> least, there >> exists opposing induced voltage on the current-loops, which consumes >> energy from such >> current-loops. The amount of energy consumed from such current-loops >> equals the gained KE >> and increase in field. There's no real way getting around it in terms >> of simulation. That completely eliminates the need for such PE. :-) > > But that's kind of the point, isn't it? That DOESN'T WORK for > electrons, because they don't slow down, the current doesn't reduce, > there's no battery attached to them (that we can see), and any > hypothetical "back EMF" in the electron's imagined "current loop" has no > effect.
I fail to see such logic. Does the current source connected to the electro-magnet slow down, lol? No it does not. We simply do ***not*** know what's inside the electron, much less how it is sustained. > If you eliminate the PE then you need to provide the energy from some > other source. ZPE, quantum foam, etc. etc.? We simply do not know, yet. > You can model an electron as one electric monopole and two magnetic > monopoles, and that works just as well as modeling it as an electric > monopole and a current loop. The current loop model just seems more > familiar. There's no know method of creating a magnetic monopole device. In fact, such a monopole is still undetected. If it exists then IMHO it is merely a higher dimensional artifact, in that we simply cannot see the magnetic closed loop, as such a closed loop would circle through a higher dimension, and hence such a magnetic monopole would be a 3-dimensional illusion. Perhaps that is why people use the current loop instead. :-) Regards, Paul Lowrance ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front
