Michel Jullian wrote:
> Temporary energy, which you can retrieve once but have to expend
> entirely to be able to retrieve it once more.
Under normal circumstances, yes. Note that I've stated from the start
of this thread that it's "temporary energy". On the other hand, read my
previous posts regarding anti-matter colliding with matter. In such a
case *it is possible to keep such energy.* :-)
> Well, we seem to agree entirely after all. No overunity on a full
cycle can be got from
> the fundamental forces. No PMMs of the first kind can work.
We agree, but take note this discussion never had anything to do with
overunity. It has to do with the fact that standard physics has no idea
where the energy comes from in the case of the electrons magnetic dipole
moment. Energy is clearly manifesting as two magnets accelerate toward
each other. Standard physics cannot see, probe, poke, touch such PE.
Again, the point is that we can glimpse where such energy comes from
when studying two attracted accelerating electro-magnets.
> As to the origin of this one time energy, it's known IMHO, it's the
work performed by
> the fundamental force, like when you push your car the KE of the car
is equal to the work
> of your pushing force, what else? So the real mystery is the
fundamental force which does
> the work in fact, whether gravitational, electric or magnetic.
Such energy is unknown regarding the electrons magnetic dipole moment.
One day we'll known, but for now it's just magic PE, lol. Again, the
electro-magnet clearly demonstrates the energy comes from whatever
sustains the magnetic dipole moment. For now physicists simply add the
energy in the equations and call it PE. Obviously we are not *required*
to know where it comes from. The point is such energy exists and we
have yet to find the reservoir. Obviously the energy exists, in the
case of two magnets accelerating, and the fact that it requires
appreciable amount of energy to create such particles. So it requires
energy to create the electron and such energy is still there.
Regards,
Paul Lowrance