On Jun 2, 2007, at 10:17 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:
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From: "Horace Heffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miklos Borbas Thruster??
On Jun 2, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:
The stator wire tips are oriented radially. Their ion wind is
oriented radially. The field of the balls deflects that radial
wind
towards themselves. That deflection is clockwise as viewed from
the
top, for the device in the first photos of the web site.
It should deflect the radial flow from the axis stator
wires tangentially toward the front of the balls. I'm thinking
here
in terms of the first device, which had what I call the "stator
wires", or corona wires, arrayed radially around the shaft at the
same level as the balls. The ion flow from those wires, even in
the
complete absence of the rotor, should be radial.
Without the rotor, leaving just its supporting and HV connecting
spindle as the HV electrode (eg with a conductive ball on it so it
doesn't emit), the ion wind from a stator emitter will form a loop
in a radial plane, I guess that's what you mean by radial wind?
Yes the above is correct in that I think when the balls are missing
there is a circular air flow, a couple of counter-flowing doughnuts
of air flow tangent in the plane of the balls, i.e. the plane of the
stator wire tips of the first tested gadget on the web site.
Not sure what you mean,
Here I was agreeing with you in part - the radial vertical slices you
want to focus on should slice two counter-rotating doughnuts, air
vortices, one CCW one CW in the slice.
I meant that in the absence of the rotor each stator wire tip will
create an ion wind loop in a _vertical_ radial plane (referring to
the first device photographed on the web site too).
Yes - two actually.
However, I meant looking at it in the plane orthogonal to the spindle
horizontal then...
at the level of the balls
i.e. about at the same level as the stator emitters...
the ion flow is outward radially when no
balls are present.
Well no, it will loop back to the spindle of course, to close the
current loop,
Yes, but not in the horizontal plane to which I referred. In that
plane the direction of flow is radial only except when acted upon by
the armature, which action provides a tangential motion.
therefore creating a vertical wind loop as I said, or so I believe.
The stator emitters are at ground potential, aren't they?
Michel
When the balls are present they deflect this ion
flow tangentially, giving a vortex flow in that plane - at least
that's my contention.
Kyle kindly proposed to do some more tests, a smoke test with the
rotor blocked and another one without the rotor (and its spindle
bluntes) would be quite instructive!
Should be interesting. I'm off for while to do mundane things ...
Regards,
Horace Heffner
