Like the Wizard in Oz, you only have to believe...

On Monday, July 9, 2012, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:

> At 02:06 AM 7/9/2012, noone noone wrote:
>
>> He is not a conman because his technology has been tested too many times
>> by too many people.
>>
>
> Brilliant demonstration of how some will confidently state as truth what
> they don't know, and then use what they have made up -- or have believed
> from others, to draw "logical conclusions."
>
> If the premise (tested "too many times by too many" people" were so, i.e,
> reliably known, the conclusion would still not be *certain,* since a
> skilled con artist can indeed fool many people many times, but it would be
> reasonable. We routinely rely upon this standard. If "too many" is a large
> number, we will also routinely consider the conclusion certain.
>
> Problem is, if there were *one* independent test, by one reliable person,
> we don't know about it or have any reliable report of it. Not to mention
> many tests and many people.
>
> "Demonstration" is perhaps being confused with "test," here. A
> "demonstration" is not generally independent, even if a witness to it is
> independent and reliable. Appearances in a demonstration can easily be
> manipulated -- or can simply be misleading. The kind of test that allows us
> to move beyond suspicions of systematic error or fraud is *independent.*
>
> It is possible to have an independent test of a black box without knowing
> the contents of the box, so secrecy, per se, isn't an obstacle to
> independent testing.
>
> It is even possible to have a somewhat less reliable independent test by
> conducting a test, where the testing itself is under the control of the
> independent tester, with the original claimant observing and able to stop
> the test, but we don't even have that *except apparently for a test which
> Rossi interrupted," if I'm getting the drift of the NASA rumors accurately.
>
>  At worst, he is a paranoid business man due to having very real enemies.
>> If I were in his situation I would be paranoid too.
>>
>
> That's not "at worst." That's a failure of imagination.
>
> Again, what this appears to be is a sympathetic projection, "I'd be
> paranoid too...."
>
> "Paranoid" does not merely mean "cautious." It means "Exhibiting or
> characterized by extreme and irrational fear or distrust of others."
>
> Paranoia is not caused by having enemies. It is caused by a world-view
> that defines the world as a hostile place, with dangers lurking under every
> interaction. It is not rational fear and distrust.
>
> Our anonymous commentator may be afraid of writing under a real or known
> name. That may not be disconnected with how s/he is commenting! Sympathy
> with paranoia (beyond the compassion we have for anyone suffering from
> psychopathology), a belief that such paranois is "right," or "healthy,"
> would be itself a symptom of paranoia. (However, there are real-world
> situations where writing under a real name can cause harm, I'm not claiming
> that noone noone is actually paranoid, only that the writing in this case
> could be consistent with that.)
>
> Paranoia is not independent from "con artist," because person may become a
> con artist as a compensation for paranoia.
>
> "They are all out to get me, so I'll do *this* to protect myself. They
> would certainly lie to attack me, so it's perfectly okay for me to lie.
> They are not going to treat me fairly, so I'll do what I need to do to get
> what I need, and their lies justify mine. It's really their fault."
>
> As far as I can tell, none of us know what the present truth is with
> Rossi. We only have appearances.
>

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