Could Rossi be using FUD as a weapon against DGT just before the release of
their product?


Fear, uncertainty and doubt, frequently abbreviated as FUD, is a tactic
used in sales, marketing, public relations,  politics and propaganda.


FUD is generally a strategic attempt to influence perception by
disseminating negative and dubious or false information. An individual
firm, for example, might use FUD to invite unfavorable opinions and
speculation about a competitor's product; to increase the general
estimation of switching costs among current customers; or to maintain
leverage over a current business partner who could potentially become a
rival.


The term originated to describe disinformation tactics in the computer
hardware industry but has since been used more broadly.  FUD is a
manifestation of the appeal to fear.


What is the FUD here? Why would a licensee spend millions of Euros to
franchise a product when there is a much superior product that may be soon
available in just a few weeks?


Cheers:    Axil


On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Chemical Engineer <[email protected]>wrote:

> Axil,
>
> My concern is that rossi is reading the same technical papers you are and
> making claims that fit the theories so your comparisons will always seem
> reasonable.  We are at the point that we need independent hard data that he
> and DGT have managed to generate thousands of times more power than others.
>
>
> On Monday, July 9, 2012, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
>
>> At 10:29 PM 7/8/2012, Axil Axil wrote:
>>
>>> So soon you forget. His first customer absolutely required the 1 MW
>>> power factor.
>>>
>>
>> According to?
>>
>>  As I posted in the past, a 1 MW thermal reactor is the ideal reactor
>>> size for a drone with a 100 HP electric engine operating with a thermal to
>>> electric conversion ratio of 15%.
>>>
>>
>> Great. The 1 MW device we were shown was many individual smaller
>> reactors. A shipping container is not going to be stuffed in a drone. If
>> there really is such a customer, what they would want delivered would be a
>> single reactor, or a small number of them, with a contract for the delivery
>> of more. They would not want someone with Rossi's background and resources
>> putting together the combination, wasting time and money on efforts not
>> actually needed.
>>
>>  Now that the Rossi core operates at 600C, the thermodynamic efficiency
>>> is up to 45%.
>>>
>>
>> According to?
>>
>>   And these playing card pack size 10 KW cores, numbered at about 100
>>> cores, this new drone LENR power supply can be packaged in a volume that is
>>> less than that occupied by a current drone engine.
>>>
>>
>> According to?
>>
>> I'll answer here. According to Rossi, then with Axil Axil drawing
>> conclusions from Rossi's reports.
>>
>>  This saves the volume now reserved for long duration sized fuel storage
>>> tanks.
>>>
>>
>> And the original point has now been buried. The point is that the
>> original 1 MW reactor is not what someone would want, who wanted to do what
>> Axil imagines as the purpose.
>>
>>  Such a LENR drone can take off from the us and get to the patrol zone
>>> anywhere in the world in just a few days saving the hassle of field support
>>> and fuel logistics, stay on station for a year and return back to its base
>>> in the US for a quick refueling and be back on station in less than a week.
>>>
>>
>> Summary: if anyone can build a LENR reactor with performance
>> characteristics like those claimed, countless applications become possible.
>>
>> This is belaboring the obvious, avoiding the obvious.
>>
>> It all depends on Rossi.
>>
>> Okay, there is a little more, there are now apparently independent
>> business people working on the problem. But we don't know what they have
>> actually found, and they are also secretive. That's not a complaint. They
>> have the right to be secretive.
>>
>> But secrecy has a consequence that cannot be avoided. We can't trust
>> rumors and claims when the truth is a secret.
>>
>> Indeed, secrecy on cold fusion, in 1989, on the part of Pons and
>> Fleischmann, was a critical factor that allowed the general physics
>> community to -- improperly -- reject cold fusion. That secrecy may have
>> been justifiable for commercial reasons, but ... it also allowed an
>> atmosphere of suspicion and mistrust to flourish, and the result was that
>> cold fusion did not get the continued massive research funding that might
>> have been necessary to break through ignorance of the mechanism, and which
>> is still needed, probably, even though secrecy is not much of an issue any
>> more (for the Pons-Fleischmann Heat Effect).
>>
>> And replication remained difficult for years, for similar reasons, and
>> thus the "intellectual property" being protected became worthless. Even
>> though the FPHE is definitely real, and that's practically a certainty.
>> Real, but impractical, so far.
>>
>> Unless Rossi's claims are real, which looks very shaky. (And that's not
>> the FPHE, it is obviously a different process, possibly LENR, and some LENR
>> theories do claim a mechanism that might work with NiH. Storms is
>> predicting that the ash with NiH is deuterium. Not immediately easy to
>> detect in a hydrogen environment where deuterium is always an impurity, but
>> with long operation at high power, it should be easy to confirm this
>> prediction. Trivial, in fact. That is the kind of work that has made
>> "fusion" of some kind -- mechanism still unknown -- highly likely as what
>> is happening with PdD experiments. Helium was the ash, demonstrated by
>> correlation with heat across many experiments and research groups.)
>>
>

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