Sigh ...., more stale regurgitations from the self-appointed expert of LENR.

Quite frankly, I hang on to Axil's every post as his posts have been useful in advancing the current state of knowledge of LENR. Infinitely more than what I can say about your posts. There is only one poster whose posts I save.

In case you are not aware, this forum gives liberal license for people to speculate, and that is exactly what many people here are doing - speculate. And in case you don't know, wild speculations is a reason why this forum exists. Furthermore, in case you've been living in a cave, Speculations are useful in broadening our horizons to other possibilities. (I especially enjoy Jones' wild speculations.)

Please please please, stop regurgitating what has already been covered ad infinitum in this forum.

Yes, we need a definitive test from Rossi. Yes, Rossi is unbelievable. Yes, Rossi is a con man. Yes, there is no proof for LENR in drones, etc etc etc etc etc etc ..... EVERYONE knows that. We don't need your "superior" intellect and analytical skills to regurgitate this for others. Say it once and be done with it. That would help those of us who are bandwidth-challenged.


Jojo



Group: Forgive the highly emotional response, but Lomax is starting to irritate me with his wordy (but devoid of substance) posts. Reminds me of the way Mary Yugo irritated most of us.

After having sinned in this area, I now ask for absolution from the group.







----- Original Message ----- From: "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:ILENRS-12 at W&M


At 10:29 PM 7/8/2012, Axil Axil wrote:
So soon you forget. His first customer absolutely required the 1 MW power factor.

According to?

As I posted in the past, a 1 MW thermal reactor is the ideal reactor size for a drone with a 100 HP electric engine operating with a thermal to electric conversion ratio of 15%.

Great. The 1 MW device we were shown was many individual smaller reactors. A shipping container is not going to be stuffed in a drone. If there really is such a customer, what they would want delivered would be a single reactor, or a small number of them, with a contract for the delivery of more. They would not want someone with Rossi's background and resources putting together the combination, wasting time and money on efforts not actually needed.

Now that the Rossi core operates at 600C, the thermodynamic efficiency is up to 45%.

According to?

And these playing card pack size 10 KW cores, numbered at about 100 cores, this new drone LENR power supply can be packaged in a volume that is less than that occupied by a current drone engine.

According to?

I'll answer here. According to Rossi, then with Axil Axil drawing conclusions from Rossi's reports.

This saves the volume now reserved for long duration sized fuel storage tanks.

And the original point has now been buried. The point is that the original 1 MW reactor is not what someone would want, who wanted to do what Axil imagines as the purpose.

Such a LENR drone can take off from the us and get to the patrol zone anywhere in the world in just a few days saving the hassle of field support and fuel logistics, stay on station for a year and return back to its base in the US for a quick refueling and be back on station in less than a week.

Summary: if anyone can build a LENR reactor with performance characteristics like those claimed, countless applications become possible.

This is belaboring the obvious, avoiding the obvious.

It all depends on Rossi.

Okay, there is a little more, there are now apparently independent business people working on the problem. But we don't know what they have actually found, and they are also secretive. That's not a complaint. They have the right to be secretive.

But secrecy has a consequence that cannot be avoided. We can't trust rumors and claims when the truth is a secret.

Indeed, secrecy on cold fusion, in 1989, on the part of Pons and Fleischmann, was a critical factor that allowed the general physics community to -- improperly -- reject cold fusion. That secrecy may have been justifiable for commercial reasons, but ... it also allowed an atmosphere of suspicion and mistrust to flourish, and the result was that cold fusion did not get the continued massive research funding that might have been necessary to break through ignorance of the mechanism, and which is still needed, probably, even though secrecy is not much of an issue any more (for the Pons-Fleischmann Heat Effect).

And replication remained difficult for years, for similar reasons, and thus the "intellectual property" being protected became worthless. Even though the FPHE is definitely real, and that's practically a certainty. Real, but impractical, so far.

Unless Rossi's claims are real, which looks very shaky. (And that's not the FPHE, it is obviously a different process, possibly LENR, and some LENR theories do claim a mechanism that might work with NiH. Storms is predicting that the ash with NiH is deuterium. Not immediately easy to detect in a hydrogen environment where deuterium is always an impurity, but with long operation at high power, it should be easy to confirm this prediction. Trivial, in fact. That is the kind of work that has made "fusion" of some kind -- mechanism still unknown -- highly likely as what is happening with PdD experiments. Helium was the ash, demonstrated by correlation with heat across many experiments and research groups.)


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