Just as a first pass I calculated a minimum crack/void volume if you were
filling the crack/void with inverted Rydberg Matter and then collapsing it
to a micro black hole...  If anybody is strange and wants to kill time like
me you can check my calcs...

  Inverted Rydberg Matter Density 1.00E+29 ions/cm3  Hydrogen Ion Weight
1.01E-27 kg  Hydrogen Ion Weight 1.01E-24 g  Planck Mass(Minimum Mass
Required) 2.20E-02 g  Number of hydrogen Ions 2.18E+22 ions  Void/Crack
Volume 2.18E-07 cm3  Void radius (spherical) 0.003735221 cm  Planck Length
1.62E-35 m  Planck Length 1.6162E-33 cm  Schwarzschild radius=Planck Radius
3.26E-29 cm

The trick is getting it to collapse upon itself.  What you have going for
you:  Quantum Gravity, Hoop Effect, Charge across void.  Thermal
compression of lattice as it is heating.


On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:45 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jojo,
>
> This may be a good area to do further carbon-LENR experimentation.
> You can find some experimental data, albeit not exactly what you propose,
> by doing a web search on "LENR carbon".
>
> Also, don't forget that some carbon nanostructures are excellent
> ballistic- and/or super-conductors - even at high temperatures.
>
> It would be interesting to know how high voltage gradients can develop at
> the tip of a carbon nano-filament.
>
> -- Lou Pagnucco
>
> Jojo Jaro wrote:
> > Peter,
> >
> > No experimental facts yet.  I am working from a theoritical top-down
> > approach.  However, I believe it shouldn't take long to get some kind of
> > "proof of concept", which I should be able to do when I am able to get
> > back to the States.  A "go or no go" decision can easily be reached, IMO.
> > Expected amount of investment in actual reactors is less than $100.  CVD
> > equipment about $4000.  SEM and TEM around $10,000 - $20,000.  All in
> all,
> > a very modest investment considering the potential benefits to humankind.
> >
> > My posts and my belief in Carbon Nanohorns structures is due to
> > recognizing the prevalent shortcomings in our current experimental
> > approach.  This is due to limitations of our chosen platform.  Let me
> > elaborate:
> >
> > First, we need to recognize that "Topology is Key".  In essense, hunting
> > for the right LENR process is essentially a hunt for the right topology.
> > There are many problems with our current approach with metal lattice.
> >
> > Second, Reproducibility is very low in our experiments.  I believe this
> is
> > inherently due to the shortcomings of the metal lattice we are working
> > with.  As mentioned, metal lattice have a tendency to "mutate" due to
> > metal migration, diffusion, sintering and melting.  Hence, they are
> > essentially "one shot" structures.   A single fusion event essentially
> > destroys your NAE.  With a destroyed NAE, we can not examine what is the
> > exact size and structure of that NAE that was successful.
> >
> > With Carbon Nanohorns on the other hand, a fusion event simply burns the
> > top off the CNT, making it shorter but still has the right topological
> > size and structure to host a subsequent fusion reaction, which it surely
> > will, since it is the right size and structure.  With lengths in the 7 mm
> > range, you can host a significant number of fusion events until you burn
> > your nanohorn down to a stub.  This implies that we will always have a
> > chance to reproduce that fusion event, giving us a chance to characterize
> > exactly what that size and structure is.
> >
> > Imagine a landscape of various Carbon nanohorn sizes. Assume that a
> > specific size and structure is the right size and fusion does occur.
>  This
> > results in shortening of that specific Carbon nanohorn.  Subsequent
> > fusions will invariably shorten that specific nanohorn even further.  At
> > the end of the day, identifyng the right size would simply be a matter of
> > using an SEM to identify the "shortest" nanohorn stub.  A straightforward
> > and easily done prospect.  Once the right size is identified, it would be
> > a simple matter to synthesize nanohorns of the right size.
> >
> > And having a whole range of sizes in one lanscape increases your chances
> > of a fusion event.
> >
> >
> > In other words, the use of Carbon nanohorn mats provides us with a
> > determistic path to follow in hunting for the right NAE.  Which would be
> > quite an improvement when compared to our current approach of "try and
> > miss".  At least, if the mat is unsuccessful, we can immediately say it
> is
> > indeed "unsuccessful" and not have to worry about whether we were right
> or
> > wrong.  We would know we were wrong for sure.
> >
> >
> > Jojo
> >
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Peter Gluck
> >   To: [email protected]
> >   Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:30 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King
> >
> >
> >   Dear Jojo,
> >
> >
> >   a) It has only a  symbolic importance perhaps but "topology is the key"
> > as idea and as expression was first stated in my
> >   1991 paper.
> >
> >
> >   b) what you say about LENR made in carbon nanostructures
> >   is very interesting- however what are the experimental facts
> >   that support this bright idea? It is possible that I am not well
> > informed, in this case I apologize for my ignorance.
> >
> >
> >   Peter
> >
> >
> >   On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:45 PM, ChemE Stewart <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >     You are describing a horny gremlin...
> >
> >
> >     On Tuesday, August 21, 2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:
> >
> >       Gang,  There has been a lot of discussion about various LENR
> results
> > lately.  In these discussions, I think a consensus is building up
> > that the key to successful LENR is topology.
> >
> >       There has been flurry of discussions about ICCF papers that we keep
> > on forgetting that ICCF results like Celani's are the old ways.
> > Even if Celani perfects his technology, it would still be a far cry
> > from beng commercializable.
> >
> >       I say we take it a notch further.  I say we moved from LENR (FP,
> > Celani) to LENR+ (Rossi) to LENR2 (Carbon nanostructures).  I say we
> > move from Pd and Nickel lattice to a topology that can be easily
> > engineered and created.  With new capability to engineer a specific
> > topology, we can create topologies of various sizes and experiment
> > on them.
> >
> >       I am talking about carbon nanotubes to be exact.  Oxidized Carbon
> > nanotubes (Carbon Nanohorns) to be specific.
> >
> >       Let me elaborate.
> >
> >       Recent studies indicate that vertically aligned CNTs can be created
> > in a straightforward and repeatable process.  The diameters of these
> > CNTs can be adjusted by adjusting catalyst deposition rates (Hence
> > particle size), catalyst kind and many other experimental
> > conditions.  SWNTs from 0.4 nm up to 100 nm  MWNTs can be easily
> > synthesized on various substrates like Nickel, steel and stainless
> > steel.  CNT heights up to 7 mm has been achieved.  (That's right, 7
> > millimeters, not micrometers)  The tops of such CNT forest can then
> > be "chopped off" by high temperature oxidation in air or some mild
> > acid.  With that, we are left with a mat of CNTs with open tops of
> > various sizes.  These open Carbon nanohorns would have a variety of
> > void sizes ranging from 0.4 nm to maybe 50 nm.  With a plurarity of
> > void sizes, one void ought to be the perfect size for LENR   Such
> > mats are ideal topologies to hunt for the size of the ideal NAE
> > structure.
> >
> >       We then pump an electrostatic field on the tips of these CNTs to
> > allow for charge accumulation and field emission on the tips.  The
> > huge Charge accumulation would provide an environment where the
> > Coulomb Barrier is screened.  Any H+ ion who happens to drift by
> > this huge charge environment would be greatly at risk of being fused
> > with a similarly screened ion.  The open voids of the Carbon
> > nanohorns would further enhance such effects.    This is of course
> > the envronment we are aiming for based on our current understanding
> > of how LENR proceeds.
> >
> >       When we achieve LENR/Cold fusion on such a void, it would then be a
> > matter of narrowing the search for the best void size to improve
> > efficiency and output.   And Carbon Nanohorns enable us to do this
> > with known and repeatable processess to engineer these voids of
> > specific sizes.  Carbon nanohorns give us this unprecedented
> > capability that metal lattice can not afford.  Metal lattice cracks
> > and voids can not be easily engineered and are quite susceptible to
> > metal diffusion, metal migration, sintering and melting.  This
> > complicates the search.  Carbon nanohorn voids are chemically and
> > thermally stable lending itself to more repeatable experiments.  And
> > the nice thing about this, is that all the parameters are adjustable
> > - such as void size, CNT height, electrostatic field strength, ion
> > concentration via pressure adjustments, temps etc.  Such
> > environments affords us a good platform to hunt for the right voids.
> >
> >       Axil contends that Ed Storms introduced this idea of topology as
> > key, but I say, he also recognized the huge potential of Carbon
> > Nanotubes as possible NAEs.
> >
> >       I say we move past LENR and even LENR+ and concentrate on hunting
> > for the right topology using Carbon Nanohorn mats.
> >
> >
> >       Jojo
> >
> >
> >       PS.  In the spirit of scientific openness that gave us "gremlins"
> > and "Chameleons", I dub this new idea of mine as the "Horny Theory
> > of LENR"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   --
> >   Dr. Peter Gluck
> >   Cluj, Romania
> >   http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
> >
> >
>
>
>

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