Hmmm...., you're saying that the right void radius dimension is 37.35221 
micrometers?  At first glance, that seems too large to me.

I think a better way would be to imagine a cylinder (a nanohorn) and calculate 
the charge repulsion exerted on an H+ ion inside that cylinder such that if it 
is the right radius, the charge repulsion from the nanohorn walls would confine 
the H+ ions into a cluster in the middle or even in a line along the axis of 
the nanohorn.   This would involve calculating the kinetic movement of the H+ 
ion, it's mutual repulsion against each other and the charge repulsion from the 
nanohorn walls, based on sp2 bonded structure of the carbon nanohorn.    
We know that the interlayer distance of a MWNT is around 0.3 nm.  This is the 
distance that a layer would repel another layer.  So I suspect that this may be 
close to the ideal void radius with the conditions I've outlined in my previous 
post.

I would do the calculation myself but alas, having not taken a class under 
Feynman, I don't know how to do this.  I hope those experts who are lucky 
enough to have taken a class under Feynman would know how to do this.


Jojo

 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ChemE Stewart 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King


  Just as a first pass I calculated a minimum crack/void volume if you were 
filling the crack/void with inverted Rydberg Matter and then collapsing it to a 
micro black hole...  If anybody is strange and wants to kill time like me you 
can check my calcs...


        Inverted Rydberg Matter Density 1.00E+29 ions/cm3 
        Hydrogen Ion Weight 1.01E-27 kg 
        Hydrogen Ion Weight 1.01E-24 g 
        Planck Mass(Minimum Mass Required) 2.20E-02 g 
        Number of hydrogen Ions 2.18E+22 ions 
        Void/Crack Volume 2.18E-07 cm3 
        Void radius (spherical) 0.003735221 cm 
        Planck Length 1.62E-35 m 
        Planck Length 1.6162E-33 cm 
        Schwarzschild radius=Planck Radius 3.26E-29 cm 



  The trick is getting it to collapse upon itself.  What you have going for 
you:  Quantum Gravity, Hoop Effect, Charge across void.  Thermal compression of 
lattice as it is heating.



  On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:45 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

    Jojo,

    This may be a good area to do further carbon-LENR experimentation.
    You can find some experimental data, albeit not exactly what you propose,
    by doing a web search on "LENR carbon".

    Also, don't forget that some carbon nanostructures are excellent
    ballistic- and/or super-conductors - even at high temperatures.

    It would be interesting to know how high voltage gradients can develop at
    the tip of a carbon nano-filament.

    -- Lou Pagnucco


    Jojo Jaro wrote:
    > Peter,
    >
    > No experimental facts yet.  I am working from a theoritical top-down
    > approach.  However, I believe it shouldn't take long to get some kind of
    > "proof of concept", which I should be able to do when I am able to get
    > back to the States.  A "go or no go" decision can easily be reached, IMO.
    > Expected amount of investment in actual reactors is less than $100.  CVD
    > equipment about $4000.  SEM and TEM around $10,000 - $20,000.  All in all,
    > a very modest investment considering the potential benefits to humankind.
    >
    > My posts and my belief in Carbon Nanohorns structures is due to
    > recognizing the prevalent shortcomings in our current experimental
    > approach.  This is due to limitations of our chosen platform.  Let me
    > elaborate:
    >
    > First, we need to recognize that "Topology is Key".  In essense, hunting
    > for the right LENR process is essentially a hunt for the right topology.
    > There are many problems with our current approach with metal lattice.
    >
    > Second, Reproducibility is very low in our experiments.  I believe this is
    > inherently due to the shortcomings of the metal lattice we are working
    > with.  As mentioned, metal lattice have a tendency to "mutate" due to
    > metal migration, diffusion, sintering and melting.  Hence, they are
    > essentially "one shot" structures.   A single fusion event essentially
    > destroys your NAE.  With a destroyed NAE, we can not examine what is the
    > exact size and structure of that NAE that was successful.
    >
    > With Carbon Nanohorns on the other hand, a fusion event simply burns the
    > top off the CNT, making it shorter but still has the right topological
    > size and structure to host a subsequent fusion reaction, which it surely
    > will, since it is the right size and structure.  With lengths in the 7 mm
    > range, you can host a significant number of fusion events until you burn
    > your nanohorn down to a stub.  This implies that we will always have a
    > chance to reproduce that fusion event, giving us a chance to characterize
    > exactly what that size and structure is.
    >
    > Imagine a landscape of various Carbon nanohorn sizes. Assume that a
    > specific size and structure is the right size and fusion does occur.  This
    > results in shortening of that specific Carbon nanohorn.  Subsequent
    > fusions will invariably shorten that specific nanohorn even further.  At
    > the end of the day, identifyng the right size would simply be a matter of
    > using an SEM to identify the "shortest" nanohorn stub.  A straightforward
    > and easily done prospect.  Once the right size is identified, it would be
    > a simple matter to synthesize nanohorns of the right size.
    >
    > And having a whole range of sizes in one lanscape increases your chances
    > of a fusion event.
    >
    >
    > In other words, the use of Carbon nanohorn mats provides us with a
    > determistic path to follow in hunting for the right NAE.  Which would be
    > quite an improvement when compared to our current approach of "try and
    > miss".  At least, if the mat is unsuccessful, we can immediately say it is
    > indeed "unsuccessful" and not have to worry about whether we were right or
    > wrong.  We would know we were wrong for sure.
    >
    >
    > Jojo
    >
    >
    >   ----- Original Message -----
    >   From: Peter Gluck
    >   To: [email protected]
    >   Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:30 PM
    >   Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King
    >
    >
    >   Dear Jojo,
    >
    >
    >   a) It has only a  symbolic importance perhaps but "topology is the key"
    > as idea and as expression was first stated in my
    >   1991 paper.
    >
    >
    >   b) what you say about LENR made in carbon nanostructures
    >   is very interesting- however what are the experimental facts
    >   that support this bright idea? It is possible that I am not well
    > informed, in this case I apologize for my ignorance.
    >
    >
    >   Peter
    >
    >
    >   On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:45 PM, ChemE Stewart <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >     You are describing a horny gremlin...
    >
    >
    >     On Tuesday, August 21, 2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:
    >
    >       Gang,  There has been a lot of discussion about various LENR results
    > lately.  In these discussions, I think a consensus is building up
    > that the key to successful LENR is topology.
    >
    >       There has been flurry of discussions about ICCF papers that we keep
    > on forgetting that ICCF results like Celani's are the old ways.
    > Even if Celani perfects his technology, it would still be a far cry
    > from beng commercializable.
    >
    >       I say we take it a notch further.  I say we moved from LENR (FP,
    > Celani) to LENR+ (Rossi) to LENR2 (Carbon nanostructures).  I say we
    > move from Pd and Nickel lattice to a topology that can be easily
    > engineered and created.  With new capability to engineer a specific
    > topology, we can create topologies of various sizes and experiment
    > on them.
    >
    >       I am talking about carbon nanotubes to be exact.  Oxidized Carbon
    > nanotubes (Carbon Nanohorns) to be specific.
    >
    >       Let me elaborate.
    >
    >       Recent studies indicate that vertically aligned CNTs can be created
    > in a straightforward and repeatable process.  The diameters of these
    > CNTs can be adjusted by adjusting catalyst deposition rates (Hence
    > particle size), catalyst kind and many other experimental
    > conditions.  SWNTs from 0.4 nm up to 100 nm  MWNTs can be easily
    > synthesized on various substrates like Nickel, steel and stainless
    > steel.  CNT heights up to 7 mm has been achieved.  (That's right, 7
    > millimeters, not micrometers)  The tops of such CNT forest can then
    > be "chopped off" by high temperature oxidation in air or some mild
    > acid.  With that, we are left with a mat of CNTs with open tops of
    > various sizes.  These open Carbon nanohorns would have a variety of
    > void sizes ranging from 0.4 nm to maybe 50 nm.  With a plurarity of
    > void sizes, one void ought to be the perfect size for LENR   Such
    > mats are ideal topologies to hunt for the size of the ideal NAE
    > structure.
    >
    >       We then pump an electrostatic field on the tips of these CNTs to
    > allow for charge accumulation and field emission on the tips.  The
    > huge Charge accumulation would provide an environment where the
    > Coulomb Barrier is screened.  Any H+ ion who happens to drift by
    > this huge charge environment would be greatly at risk of being fused
    > with a similarly screened ion.  The open voids of the Carbon
    > nanohorns would further enhance such effects.    This is of course
    > the envronment we are aiming for based on our current understanding
    > of how LENR proceeds.
    >
    >       When we achieve LENR/Cold fusion on such a void, it would then be a
    > matter of narrowing the search for the best void size to improve
    > efficiency and output.   And Carbon Nanohorns enable us to do this
    > with known and repeatable processess to engineer these voids of
    > specific sizes.  Carbon nanohorns give us this unprecedented
    > capability that metal lattice can not afford.  Metal lattice cracks
    > and voids can not be easily engineered and are quite susceptible to
    > metal diffusion, metal migration, sintering and melting.  This
    > complicates the search.  Carbon nanohorn voids are chemically and
    > thermally stable lending itself to more repeatable experiments.  And
    > the nice thing about this, is that all the parameters are adjustable
    > - such as void size, CNT height, electrostatic field strength, ion
    > concentration via pressure adjustments, temps etc.  Such
    > environments affords us a good platform to hunt for the right voids.
    >
    >       Axil contends that Ed Storms introduced this idea of topology as
    > key, but I say, he also recognized the huge potential of Carbon
    > Nanotubes as possible NAEs.
    >
    >       I say we move past LENR and even LENR+ and concentrate on hunting
    > for the right topology using Carbon Nanohorn mats.
    >
    >
    >       Jojo
    >
    >
    >       PS.  In the spirit of scientific openness that gave us "gremlins"
    > and "Chameleons", I dub this new idea of mine as the "Horny Theory
    > of LENR"
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >   --
    >   Dr. Peter Gluck
    >   Cluj, Romania
    >   http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
    >
    >




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