Robert Lynn <[email protected]> wrote:

Jed, the argument from authority approach with regard to climate change
> doesn't work because there are so many highly educated dissenting voices .
> . .


No, there are not many. Sorry, but that is not the case. I have read enough
about the controversy to ascertain this. There are many people outside the
field who mistakenly believe themselves to be experts, who claim they have
discovered mistakes. But they are wrong.

This is exactly the situation we have with cold fusion. Self-appointed
experts who know nothing about the research, and who have no relevant
qualifications or experience have attacked it again and again, for bogus
reasons. These are often scientists, but being a scientist does not give
you a magic ability to understand subjects you have not studied.

I am sensitive about this because of what I have seen in cold fusion.

Let me add a minor note about terminology. You have confused the issue
slightly by saying "argument from authority." Usually, "argument from
authority" is used to mean fallacious appeal to authority (Misuse of
Authority), which is what I described before:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-authority.html

Like the word "inflammable" this means the opposite of what it sounds like
it means. If you can show that the authorities you are cite are actually
legitimate authorities in the proper area, then your argument is valid by
definition, albeit weak.

If I show that Dr. X is a valid authority and he says cold fusion is real,
and you show that Prof. Y is also a valid authority and she says cold
fusion is not real, then we must conclude that legitimate experts disagree.
We cannot depend on authority. You are saying that is the situation with
global warming. However, you are wrong. There are very few actual,
accredited experts in that field who disagree.

There will always be SOME experts who disagree.

Some people claim there are only a few accredited experts because the
majority of climatologists purge the ones who disagree with them. This is
unlikely. The fact that there are a few proves they are ignored, not
purged. That would be the pattern in other fields. The scientists I know
don't care what other scientists think. There are many individuals in cold
fusion who disagree with the majority. No one listens to them, but no one
tries to purge them either.

Even in biology there are few creationists. They are considered eccentric
but no one cares what they say.

Here is some text from the nizkor.org definition of "appeal to authority:"

"This fallacy is committed when the person in question is not a legitimate
authority on the subject. More formally, if person A is not qualified to
make reliable claims in subject S, then the argument will be fallacious.

This sort of reasoning is fallacious when the person in question is not an
expert. In such cases the reasoning is flawed because the fact that an
unqualified person makes a claim does not provide any justification for the
claim. The claim could be true, but the fact that an unqualified person
made the claim does not provide any rational reason to accept the claim as
true. . . .

Determining whether or not a person has the needed degree of expertise can
often be very difficult. In academic fields (such as philosophy,
engineering, history, etc.), the person's formal education, academic
performance, publications, membership in professional societies, papers
presented, awards won and so forth can all be reliable indicators of
expertise. . . .

. . . It should be noted that being an expert does not always require
having a university degree. Many people have high degrees of expertise in
sophisticated subjects without having ever attended a university. Further,
it should not be simply assumed that a person with a degree is an expert.

Of course, what is required to be an expert is often a matter of great
debate. . . ."

That last point is true, but not so much for hard science. There is a world
of difference between someone who has done the work it takes to get a PhD
versus an amateur. I have met some very stupid PhD scientists such as Nate
Hoffman and David Lindley. They make elementary logical errors. However,
their technical knowledge is miles above mine. I would never challenge
their judgement regarding their expertise (mass spectroscopy in Hoffman's
case). In my review of Hoffman's book, I criticized him because he thought
Ontario Hydro sells used moderator water in bottles. I suspected this was
wrong, and quickly confirmed this water is 100 million times too
radioactive to sell. I criticized him because he lacked common sense and
over the two years he was writing the book, he did not bother to do what
any newspaper reporter would do in the first half-hour: call Ontario Hydro
on the phone. That's stupid, but it has nothing to do with spectroscopy. It
is not technical stupidity. It is ordinary, garden variety stupidity.

An expert outside his field is likely to be as prone to making errors is
anyone else is.

- Jed

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