Abd, My take on all of this… and I’m sure Jojo is listening in…
I believe you have assembled a reasonably accurate chronology of Jojo’s posting proclivities. However, I suspect too many within the Collective are missing the primary reasons why Jojo’s posts what he posts. Too many miss it because they simply-respond to Jojo’s arguments with counter-arguments of their own. Unfortunately, this is precisely what Jojo wants us to do. Let me put it this way: Many of these arguments that Jojo has put forth… It’s really not about AGW. It’s really not about Obama’s actual birth location. It’s really not about those sinister Moon worshipers. I suspect most on this list get that about Jojo. It is instead, I suspect, about Jojo trying to find a script that will allow him to work out a huge amount of anger and rage he has internalized as a result of having been incessantly belittled when he was much younger, most likely as a child. It’s pretty clear to me that Jojo is a smart dude. He has a lot of intelligence. It’s probably what got him in trouble due to no fault of his own. I am most certainly speculating here but perhaps it was Jojo’s own pugnacious intelligence that intimidated some of his primary care-givers to no end - to the point that some of them felt that belittling him was the only way they surmised that they could once again achieve the upper hand. Whatever the reasons, IMO Jojo didn’t deserve to have been dumped on. Unfortunately, setting up script after script within Vortex-l where Jojo baits the collective into engaging in counter-arguments – that will never get to the root of the real injustice that was inflicted on Jojo earlier in his life. This is precisely why I strongly suggested to Jojo that he try to find a men’s group. It is within the safe and supportive confines of a men’s group, a group of individuals who are Jojo’s peers that will give him the crucial feedback he never received earlier in his life. I participated in a men’s group for over 10 years. It was one of the best things I ever did for myself. The sad fact about our highly frantic western culture is that too many men are simply not in touch with their own feelings. Too many men in our culture do not really understand intimacy, particularly the ability to express intimacy within our own gender. Our gender tends to equate “intimacy” as something only having to do with sex. Most women got over that ridiculous fallacy a long time ago. Unfortunately, too many of our gender have yet to understand that simple revelation. While it is quite natural for us to disagree amongst each other and then to argue (sometimes incessantly) about the particulars… it would not, IMO, be in Jojo’s best interests to constantly feed him counter arguments at this particular point. All that would accomplish is allow him set up additional scenarios where he can lash back at his perceived opponents - as within the Vortex-L group. IMO, Jojo needs to confront and then address all the crap that happened to him earlier in his life. It’s a big task and it can’t be done alone. You simply can’t figure your way out of that crap all by yourself. One of the best ways to address such issues would be within the safe confines of a men’s group where one can begin to recognize one’s anger, and then begin to safely work through that anger, and perhaps most import of all: get the vital feedback one didn’t get earlier in their life. BTW, trying to get a tad back on-topic here... We should not kid ourselves into assuming that a lack of being able to be intimate with one’s peers will not affect how one performs scientific research, such as in the CF field. That goes for both for solitary research as well as within a collective organization. More likely than not, it will affect the quality of one’s research - adversely so. My two cents Steven Vincent Johnson OrionWorks.com zazzle.com/orinworks
