Well, there is one thing these chronic off-topic posters can do, stop the
off-topic posts and see if I don't stop myself.
The AGW propaganda was never resolved. That is why I wanted to post this
thread. I can not very well leave propaganda unanswered, can I?
I've already stop my off-topic posts about Darwinian Evolution and about
Christianity and God; so one can't say I have not tried to keep my word.
OK, Here's the deal for everyone. If the guilty ones will lay off the
OFF-TOPIC posts, you know who you are, then I will stop my off-topic posts.
I've said it before, I've been saying it for almost a year now, and I'll say
it again as clearly as everyone can understand. Lay off the off-topic posts
from Vortex and you will never hear another peep from me. This time, I will
unsubscribe permanently and not resubscirbe ever. If I violate my own
promise, you can ask Bill to ban me permanently.
So, how about it? Do we have a deal? Jed? SVJ? and you of course with your
chronic verbal diarrhea. We could have a "hard reset" right now if you
want. Wipe the slate clean and rebuild this fine fine fine forum to
concentrate on finding a solution to the Cold Fusion problem. Note that I
am only complaining about the chronic off-topic violators. An occasional
off-topic post is OK, but these chronic violators make it a fine art.
As for the rest of your posts, I did not even bother to read it; as with
all your other lies about your mood god and muhammed's dozens of wives and
concubines including a 9 year old girl. All the verbal diarrhea from you is
tiresome and worthless and not worth reading. If you want me to read all
your responses, learn to control your verbal diarrhea. Or at least learn
how to write better so that it does not stink so much
SVJ,
oh you are so right about my childhood. Bravo........
One thing I've learned though, from my childhood is that I hate bullies,
especially a gang of bullies. Ever since I was a child, I've always stood
up to bullies often resulting in bloody noses. But I am not going to stop
standing up to a gang of bullies to this forum. You break the rules of this
forum with impunity and destroy this forum that I love and you insult me at
every turn, and you expect me to lay quiet? Good luck with that.
Jojo
PS. As always, this is a calibrated insult to the same level of insults
thrown my way.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 12:45 AM
Subject: [Vo]:Continued trolling by Jojo Jaro
At 02:22 PM 12/17/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:
Original Subject: [Vo]:New Data "Worrying" 2000 climatologists about
Global Warming ....
Here's some new data that is "worrying" 2000 climatologists about Global
Warming .
[the complete post is quoted at the bottom]
Jojo, below, claims that others are off-topic, so he can be, too. Yet he
was not responding to some "AGW propaganda." This was an original post in
this subject header.
The subject of AGW is of peripheral interest to the Vortex list, because
of the perceived need for alternative, clean energy. So people sometimes
mention it.
However, this is not a place to debate AGW itself, it's peripheral. Jojo
takes extreme positions, uses highly provocative and offensive language,
and we can see what happens here. People bite. This thread generated 42
posts today, so far, plus 11 from him.
Jojo wrote:
BTW, I want nothing more than people laying off AGW (or Anti-AGW)
propaganda from this forum.
He's lying. This post (along with many others) demonstrates it. He
deliberately provoked this discussion. He deliberately requested answer
from a specific long-time list member, Jed.
Jojo has a no-holds-barred retaliation policy. He wants everyone to shut
up about global warming, he claims. So what was the last global warming
discussion?
At 03:24 PM 12/12/2012, Harry Veeder wrote a very brief post suggesting
"Cap carbon emissions, pay dividends to everyone," with a link. Yes.
Off-topic, but it was harmlessly so. It was just an opinion, brief, and
only "provocative" if one takes any comment that can be interpreted as
pro-AGW as provocative.
Jed Rothwell commented, "Good idea!" No attack on anyone, no disparaging
comments. Just two words.
At 05:43 PM 12/12/2012, Harry Veeder wrote "another good idea which will
be ignored. ;-)"
That was it, except for Jojo Jaro.
At 07:47 PM 12/12/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote a post starting with "As it should
be. It is a lousy idea." He ended with "There is not Anthropic Global
Warming. You disagree... good! Let's agree to disagree. But let's agree
to stop the off-topic propaganda in Vortex."
Nobody else responded, until Jojo, five days later, out of the blue,
vigorousy stirred the pot with this thread. The first post, quoted below,
was merely anti-AGW propaganda. The original discussion, the 12th was
harmless, Two others made comments that might be read as pro-AGW, but just
with an idea and an assent. Jojo responded assertively, but didn't toss in
highly provocative remarks. Here, he did. And it got worse.
This particular post trolled Jed. It was highly sarcastic and
in-your-face. It worked, and Jojo has shown great skill as a troll. He
intensifies his trolling until he gets the response he really wants. This
is not the first time he's demonstrated that, it's been documented before.
In spite of what he claims, the record is clear, that Jojo is only here to
engage in "favorite topic" flame wars, like the "usurper-in-Chief" (i.e.
Obama), AGW, "ragheads," or the like.
At 08:57 AM 11/6/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:
Well, I guess this is the end of the rope for me. I don't see much more
leeway for my "political hatred" and religious posts anymore.
Goodbye my friends. May you live in Interesting times with your newly
minted messiah-in-thief. LOL....
Typical troll, actually. He's claimed he was leaving the list many times.
He's promised to lay off others if they lay off him, but then, when they
have stopped, he lays into them again. This is merely the latest
demonstration.
At 03:17 PM 12/17/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote a relatively sensible post in this
thread, as to the central theme. (He argued that draconian measures re AGW
shouldn't be taken if AGW wasn't certain.) However, he tossed in, as he
usually does, provocative phrases and unnecessary comments. He's not just
weaning his farm from oil, he's weaning it from "raghead" oil. He takes a
libertarian position, which is fine. That is *not* the problem. He isn't
just protesting some excessive concern about the environment, he brings up
an entire world-view that is provocative: " I just despise big,
overreaching, communistic/socialist and fascist world governments telling
you what to do to promote their "Environmental Worshipping" agenda. "
That, of course, invites anyone who seriously cares about the environment
to jump in, and it implies that they are supporting big government, etc.
At 03:36 PM 12/17/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:
Harry, You said it best yourself. It "may still" ...
Harry had made a simple comment *discussing* the issue, not "rabid,"
simply raising a possibility, but Jojo, in direct response, referred to
"rabid AGW propagandists in this forum." And again referred to "raghead
oil" -- the particular source of oil is *irrelevant* to the GW issue.
"Raghead" refers to a favorite theme of Jojo's, the disparagement of
Islam, Muslims, etc. Jojo made sure he mentioned his allegience to "King
Jesus Christ." Again, it was irrelevant, but he can then claim that people
are prejudiced against him because he is "Christian."
He has long been expecting to be banned, he's mentioned that many times.
Usually, it's "Don't bother banning me, I'm gone and I won't even know."
But he's lying about that as well. He simply watches the list for
opportunities to attack his favorite targets. His on-topic discussion here
is relatively rare. I'd say it's gone on not merely long enough, but too
long. Jojo, more than anyone I've seen in a long time, has been
frustrating the purpose of this list. It is not enough to merely ignore a
genuine troll, because trolls are skilled at enraging people.
This has nothing to do with pro or anti AGW.
At 02:22 PM 12/17/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:
Here's some new data that is "worrying" 2000 climatologists about Global
Warming ....
Obviously, since 2000 of them were right, this new data must be wrong.
This first link shows the rate of ice melting leading to the conclusion
that Global Warming must be accelerating....???
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/28/sea_levels_new_science_climate_change/>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/28/sea_levels_new_science_climate_change/
Then, to confirm it, this 2nd link "definitely" shows that Global warming
is occuring that is "correlated" to the amount of C02 that man pumps out
into the atmosphere.... ????
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/29/wmo_global_temp_figures_2012_doha_ninth_hottest/>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/29/wmo_global_temp_figures_2012_doha_ninth_hottest/
But, what do I know. I'm not one of those 2000 climatologists who where
NOT bribed or threatened in any way. And since, there's 2000 of them;
there's only one of me. They must be right and I am wrong and anybody
questioning their conclusions must be nuts. Right Jed?
Hey, if others can violate forum list rules with impunity regarding AGW
propaganda, I should be able to do the opposite propaganda with
impunity... right?
Jojo
PS: BTW, I want nothing more than people laying off AGW (or Anti-AGW)
propaganda from this forum.
