At 05:56 PM 12/20/2012, Brad Lowe wrote:
The sad part is we have the same proof for the magic penny as we do
for the e-cat and Hyperion.
Well, close, but not quite. We don't have any clear independent
confirmation for those latter devices, but the claims, first of all,
are not quite so extreme. There is circumstantial evidence that
*something* is happening and the likely delays are due to
unreliability, not total deceptions.
Yeah, there is a similarity, but heat from NiH has long been reported.
It's also never been truly clearly and openly confirmed. It's
somewhat like the status of cold fusion, before heat/helium was
found, though my impression is that there was more circumstantial
evidence for cold fusion back then, and there were wider reports.
But with NiH, we have no evidence adequate to establish the ash. It
might turn out to be difficult. It is the known and heat-correlated
ash from PdD cold fusion that makes the reality of it a scientific certainty.
It's still difficult to reliably demonstrate.
My opinion is that if Rossi or Defkalion really have *anything*, they
should sell "demonstration devices." Essentially toys. And they
should patent them as such, with energy generation as an "additional claim."
This is along the lines of the popper kit that was promised and that
apparently has never worked. If it had worked, if it had shown real
energy release, that would be the kind of demonstration that would
break the Papp field open. The same would be true for NiH devices.
Make them cheap and sell them!
Small is beautiful. But Rossi wants to go for megawatt plants. He
can't make a megawatt plant if he can't make a kilowatt, or, for that
matter, 100 watts. 10 watts.
In any case, I'm not ready to toss Rossi in the same can as this
magic penny guy.
But, Brad, you have a point.
Look, Brillouin is at SRI, setting up to run tests with expert
support. We may see something soon.
PdD is definitely real, but highly unreliable, still. And expensive
even if it works.
NiH is nowhere near as solidly established, but is very attractive
because of far cheaper materials, and because of some interesting
research history, from lots of people. So there is lots of reason to
encourage efforts to replicate prior work with NiH, or to explore it
more thoroughly. There is no reason to do that with the magic penny.
