It takes "two" to escalate and you guys have used up a lot of bandwidth one-upping each other.
You are obviously both bright guys, I think your positive focused energies do much more good when spent solving world energy problems... On Sunday, December 30, 2012, Peter Gluck wrote: > Dear Abd, > > we know the history; I think the solution is to answer strictly only those > messages of Jojo which refer to LENR and ignoring the toxic ones. > I am very worried why Bill Beaty does not answer > to the complaining colleagues. > Peter > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected] > > wrote: > > I this post I review the early history of controversy involving Jojo Jaro > on this list. Jojo began with clearly relevant postings on alternative > energy research. That went on for some time, until May, 2012, when a > problem appeared. > > Ultimately, this study leads to a clear example of what Jojo does. He > imagines insult, then insults "back," initiating a cycle of insult, > escalating. At the same time, he holds a series of strong beliefs, > apparently not suscpetible to evidence or genuine discussion, on topics > that are likely to be inflammatory if brought here (and just about anywhere > on the internet, except for certain odd corners), and he readily drops > these into discussions. > > At 04:46 AM 12/30/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: > > Yes, I stand corrected. > > If calling for the open, transparent and proper accountability of his > qualifications is an insult, then yes, I've insulted Obama. > > > I will separately address this in another post. > > I decided to look back and see if I could find the origin of Jojo's sense > of Vortex and the Vortex community, so I reviewed the contributions of Jojo > to this forum. Jojo has repeated claimed that he doesn't "start" insulting, > but that others insult him, and he responds with insult. > > He made comments early on that could indicate a certain combativeness, but > that is not unusual here. In a post, resent 26 Apr 2012 20:33:31 -0700, in > which he complimented Jed Rothwell, he mentioned that he disagreed on > "Darwinian Evolution." (By the way, source time confirms location in the > Philippines, I think.) > > However, the post to which he was responding, apparently, did not mention > "Darwinian Evolution," so this must have been a reference to some other > post. Another list subscriber chimed in with some support for Jojo, but > nobody started debating evolution. > > But on Fri, 25 May 2012 14:37:50 -0700 (resent time), Jojo sent an > extensive post on "Darwinian Evolution." http://www.mail-archive.com/** > [email protected]/msg66036.**html<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg66036.html> > > Jojo might think that this post did not insult anyone. But it did. It was > in response to a casual comment by James Bowery: > > I hate to think what would have become of Newton or Darwin had they not > been > among the relatively independent British middle (yeoman) class. > > > This comment is, in no way, propaganda for Darwinian Evolution. Yes, it > assumes a certain importance to Darwin, but we need to understand this: > that importance is a routinely accepted fact, tantamount to a belief, among > most people interested in science. Were there some necessity to attack > Darwinian evolution -- difficult to understand for Vortex-l -- okay. But > there was not. The subject was not Darwinian Evolution. > Jojo escalated, with a rant on Darwinian Evolution that connected it with > *everyone who accepts Darwinian Evolution.* Read the post! Jojo knew that > he was changing the subject. He knew that it would be highly controversial. > He anticipated "shots." He implied that he'd not be responding. > > Resent Fri, 25 May 2012 16:05:54 -0700, Jojo wrote this: > > I hesitated to post my original critique of Darwinian Evolution; and it > is the reason why I refrained from responding about Darwinian Evolution for > so long - that is; that I value this forum so much, that I do not want to > involve other topics in this forum other than Cold Fusion. I wish people > would not use this forum for propaganda of their beliefs and then exclude > other points of view; just like what Parks, Huzienga, and others are doing > wrt to Hot fusion. > > > However, he then proceeded to "challenge" Jed Rothwell, who had responded > civilly to Jojo. However, Jed noted that Jojo was "ignorant." That kind of > comment is typically taken by Jojo as an "insult." Rothwell promised to let > Jojo have the last word. He kept that promise for that thread. The > discusion of evolution continued a little, but other readers started to > complain about off-topic. > > A thread on a cold fusion topic had been hijacked by the insertion of a > discussion of "Darwinian Evolution," based not, as Jojo has often claimed, > on "propaganda," but a mere reference to Darwin > > -- > Dr. Peter Gluck > Cluj, Romania > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >
