Apparently there is a large amount of energy stored within these noble gas clusters that can be released doing mechanical work. That might be possible, but there needs to be a source of this energy to store in the first place before that can happen.
I have not seen proof that zero point energy can be harnessed in real world applications. Is anyone aware of any actual products that exist now which use this form of energy? Until it is proven, I plan to stick with the COE as a guide when evaluating unusual claims. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Roarty, Francis X <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:32 pm Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:noble gase cluster explosion My pardon, I should have said “IMHO Papp exploited changes in the geometry of gas boundaries TO DISCOUNT THE ENERGY needed by high powered laser OR SPARK” much in the same way Nobel Laureate Julian Schwinger suggested for a bubble in sonluminescence. IMHO Casimir confinement in opposition to gas motion can lead to a self assembling HUP trap where the random motion of gas is multiplied by equivalent accelerations provided by the changes in geometry. One gas acts as the conductive medium while another acts as the gas atoms or superatoms acted upon forming both an expanding and collapsing meniscus as the noble gases resist compound formations. Your citation is more evidence that all these anomalies are related from sonoluminesce , bubble fusion, Rossi to these new Papp like exploding noble gases. I don’t think the rules for “conservation of energy” should exclude ZPE in the form of a Maxwellian demon but I do believe in the “conservation of miracles”. Regards Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:47 AM To: vortex-l Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:noble gase cluster explosion To start out, noble gas clusters including Xenon clusters are formed when these noble gases are pre-ionized by RF radiation. The main design goal in the Papp reaction is to produce UV and X-rays. To do this, Papp used enhanced isotopic nuclear radiation to produce X-rays catalyzed by a high voltage spark discharge; however his spark was relatively weak in terms of current. But a strong enough high current spark discharge can generate this level and kind of EMF. It has been recently discovered that noble gas clusters will explode when exposed to high intensity EMF in the UV and X-ray range. Xenon clusters that range in size up to about 14 000-atoms will explode yielding extremely energetic ions with energies up to 1 MeV. By contrast, a chemical explosion involves chemical transition energies of only some tens of electron volts. An explosion of noble gases can far surpass in power what a chemical explosive can deliver. The explosion of noble gas clusters including xenon clusters initiated by strong emf in the ultraviolet and the X-ray range provides an explanation of where all that power and all those electrons produced by the Papp engine come from. See for background the following: http://phys.org/news/2012-11-ionization-x-ray-laser-shells-electron.html and http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ph.utexas.edu%2F~tditmire%2Fpapers%2FTD52.pdf&ei=LE_uUNugKKSO0QHmioD4BA&usg=AFQjCNFrmkiKaJ9p1moAlkahUj93xAt8lg&sig2=tpV_wTT2bWLGsM7NQjMA_Q&bvm=bv.1357700187,d.dmQ
