DGT embraces Dr. Kim’s optical theory as the prime reaction mechanism in their reactor along with Bose-Einstein condensation.
In the broadest terms, this optical theory postulates that EMF will catalyze nuclear reactions in elements, that is fusion reactions by enhanced screening of the coulomb barrier. In tis theory, Kim calculates the increased fusion cross sections. If you read Kim’s collected works, you will see various experimental suggestions about the various possible nuclear reactions that the optical theory encompasses. All these reactions involve transmutation of elements. DGT has publicly revealed that they have developed a real time device for tracking the progress of the transmutation chains as they occur to make sense of their LENR ash profile. If you all would read the publicly available info on the Ni/H reactor, you might avoid confusing LENR reactions with LENR+ reactions. This is important. This is what Peter has been preaching until he is blue in the face. Peter: Give up one LENR, it is a dead end! Axil: Lack of study and the enthusiasm to study is not lack of information! On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Foks0904 . <[email protected]> wrote: > *I have read all the info on the Ni/H reactor that I can get my hands on, > and that all produce transmuted elements, they don't use deuterium, and > they don't produce tritium, the hallmark of deuterium fusion.* > *The Ni/H reactor does not fuse deuterium to produce heat. Without a > doubt, transmutation of elements is the source of excess heat in the Ni/H > reactor* > > Axil, while I respect your knowledge and enthusiasm for this subject, you > seem to be going out on a limb that is bordering on unscientific when you > say stuff like *"without a doubt"* based on only a small handful of > papers coming from only a small handful of researchers who are almost all > involved in proprietary ventures where information is either A) selectively > reported or B) not reported at all. You *must* doubt if you wish to label > yourself as a scientific-minded person. > > Who has looked for and reported on tritium findings in NiH systems? Also > all light water systems contain some small percentage of deuterium; we > don't yet know if that is involved in the excess heat reactions or not. No > one has tested for post-reaction deuterium products in NiH reactions > either. Even if they have been tested for to a limited extent (do link the > papers if you could), there has to be widespread replication for any of > this to be relevant. You can't just focus on a small handful of studies and > declare some kind of pseudo-victory. Corroborating replication is at the > very heart of experimental science.Testing for these things (ash, etc.) is > highly non-trivial and takes time to hash out. > > I contend that we just don't know as much about NiH systems as you are > claiming. We have an enigma on our hands; lets exercise some humility. > > Regards. All the best. > > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > >> *"The critique is of a Ni bar experiment performed by Focardi, Habel, and >> Piantelli."* >> >> The paper that was critiqued was written in 1998, the paper that I >> reference was produced in 2012. >> >> Maybe things have changed in that 14 year period; ya think? >> >> I have read all the info on the Ni/H reactor that I can get my hands on, >> and that all produce transmuted elements, they don't use deuterium, and >> they don't produce tritium, the hallmark of deuterium fusion. >> >> The Ni/H reactor does not fuse deuterium to produce heat. Without a >> doubt, transmutation of elements is the source of excess heat in the Ni/H >> reactor. >> >> "*You do not know of everything in the literature, or everything said at >> various conferences. Neither do I, but evidently I heard some things you >> missed out on. There is no "default" here, and the answer is not an >> absolute yes or no. Piantelli is not that well established. He has not been >> independently replicated, so strictly speaking, nothing has been >> established. When 3 to 5 other researchers have confirmed the heat and the >> transmutations, then we will know with confidence the results are real."* >> >> The default is I choose to accept Piantelli's experimental results over >> your opinions because you have not proved your case. >> >> Deuterium LENR reactions and the Ni/H reaction are two completely >> different reactions. Any opinions formed in decades old conversations about >> Deuterium Fusion cannot be applied to the current Ni/H reactors. >> >> No developer of the Ni/H reactor states that deuterium fusion is the >> source of their excess heat. They all state that transmutation of elements >> are the source of excess heat; this all inclusive list includes Miley. >> >> You have this religious like fixation on deuterium fusion that cannot be >> applied to every LENR system. How can deuterium factor into a system that >> does not contain deuterium??? >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't see a any criticism of Piantelli's experimental procedure in >>>> the paper you provided. >>>> >>> The critique is of a Ni bar experiment performed by Focardi, Habel, and >>> Piantelli. The technique is the same. Others including McKubre have >>> critiqued the technique for similar reasons, although I do not recall they >>> published. >>> >>> So by default, the proof I provided stands true and conclusive. >>>> >>> By default? By default you have read every paper in the literature and >>> talked to McKubre and every scientist who has discussed this work? How did >>> you do that, by ESP? >>> >>> You do not know of everything in the literature, or everything said at >>> various conferences. Neither do I, but evidently I heard some things you >>> missed out on. There is no "default" here, and the answer is not an >>> absolute yes or no. Piantelli is not that well established. He has not been >>> independently replicated, so strictly speaking, nothing has been >>> established. When 3 to 5 other researchers have confirmed the heat and the >>> transmutations, then we will know with confidence the results are real. >>> >>> Nobody wins by default in experimental science. Everyone has to play >>> through to the end. >>> >>> - Jed >>> >>> >> >
