You are describing the case of zero electron motion when you use the 
observation frame that is synchronized to the electron motion.  That is just 
one of an infinite series of view points.  In that frame only the coulomb 
effect is seen.

Time dilation is determined by what an observer believes is happening to 
objects that he measures and in this case it is the moving pair of electrons.  
In that observers world both are moving at a velocity through his 
instrumentation so he measures the field of one of them first at the location 
of the second one.  The effect of that field then can be calculated as it 
modifies the movement of the other electron.

This is similar to us looking at two electrons that are in motion within an 
accelerator.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: John Berry <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Feb 17, 2014 3:13 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law


David, if the electrons do not see that in their world view, then the second 
one is hardly exposed to something that does not exist for it.


Every electrically charged object has in other reference frames various 
magnetic fields, the axis and direction of the magnetic field is decided by the 
relative motion of the observer.


Since radiation of various forms exists moving in every possible direction 
towards every charged object, that we can propose that every charged object has 
multiple magnetic fields with every possible magnitude, direction and axis in 
different reference frames that are being regularly observed in those frames.


Of course none of this is true if SR is incorrect, and if the motion in 
question is relative to an aether providing an unknown frame of reference...










On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:52 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

We observe two moving electrons in my calculation.  The first one generates a 
magnetic field that the second one is exposed to.  The electrons do not see 
this effect in their world view.  This is equivalent to what we might see if we 
look at two parallel beams of charged particles.   Speed them up to nearly the 
speed of light and my calculation is that they do not attract or repel each 
other.

Dave

 

 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: H Veeder <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>

Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 11:41 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law


What is the source of the magnetism?


Harry




On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 6:24 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

Sorry, I realize that my wording was flawed.  I mean that the two particles are 
moving in parallel at the same velocity.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: H Veeder <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 3:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law







On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

Once I made a calculation of the attraction between two charged particles that 
are moving together at a constant velocity relative to my frame of reference.  
I was pleasantly surprised to find that as the velocity of the two charges 
approached the speed of light, a perfect balance between the electric force and 
the magnetic force was achieved.  This implied that there would be precisely 
zero electromagnetic force between the two and hence no acceleration either 
together or apart at the speed of light.  This matches the special theory of 
relativity since at light speed the time dilation reaches infinity for the 
objects being viewed.

Since their time was slowed down to zero, they should not be seen as 
accelerating towards or away from each other.

Dave

 








Dave, what do you mean by "moving together"? Moving on parallel paths at 
constant velocity or moving off in different directions  at constant velocity?







Harry











Reply via email to