First, you can not guarantee that the water is 100% deionized, can you?  DI 
water sold in stores is not completely Deionized.

Second, because you can not guarantee number 1 above, you can not guarantee 
that no electrolysis will occur.  If there is current flowing thru that water, 
it will electrolyze water, possibly preventing enough energy to catalyze a 
hydrino transition.  Water will electrolyze first before doing a hydrino 
transition.  That is the chemical environment you are putting your electrodes 
in.  You can not ignore this chemical process that will always take precedence 
over your hydrino transition.

Bottom line is, you can not guarantee a hydrino transition under water.  If you 
can not guarantee a hydrino transition, what then are you measuring with your 
water bath?  You would just be measuring the heat of your electrolysis.

This is the reason why I believe it won't work - it's a non-starter.

I believe a better approach is simply follow Mill's lead.  Use solar panels to 
measure output.  Like I asked before, what is our goal?  Is it to figure out a 
complete energy balance accounting or simply to verify certain aspects of 
Mill's claims.  Jack needs to answer this for himself so that he can decide 
which direction to go.  This is his experiment after all.




Jojo


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Higgins 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt


  It would appear that you are not qualified to say that "calorimetry using 
water is a non-starter".  First, in DI water there is no electrolyte added 
(just the opposite) and there will be no current flowing through this water 
being used to capture the heat and thermalize the UV.  The DI water has no 
current, hence not hydrolysis.  Second, Mills' experiment begins with water.  
Within the high current flow, the water in the porous metal container 
(particle) is thermally and electrically decomposed into various hydrogen, 
oxygen, and hydroxide species both neutral and ionized, though the voltage is 
specifically held low to help prevent impact ionization of the hydrogen (the 
hydrino state requires the electron).  I proposed isolating the test pellet in 
a wax container so that the DI water does not contaminate the water in the test 
pellet, though that may not be necessary.


  If Mills is correct, the whole reaction is chemical.  If you have a better 
idea for calorimetry, describe it.


  On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]> wrote:

    In my opinion.  Calorimetry using water is a non-starter.  There is just to 
many points of entry where error can creep in.  The biggest of which would be, 
will a hydrino transition even occur under water.  It seems to me that it would 
electrolyze and split the water first before it initiates a hydrino transition 
reaction.  Remember Ed's mantra - you can not ignore the Chemical environment.

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