Hi Bill. You need to read the paper in question; Jones is presenting Ken's quote without the necessary context. What Ken is driving at is that the EV contains a substantial amount of like charge in a small volume. The forces being balanced by such a structure would, at least superficially, seem immense. A "bottle" of ev's which were caused to become unbalanced would release a substantial amount of energy, somewhere between normal chemical energy and atomic energy. That's the "ugly" of which he speaks. I must admit, I find the idea of a penning trap for EV's very intriguing. I wonder if he's made any real headway in this regard.
K. -----Original Message----- From: William Beaty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fw: New Shoulders Paper On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Jones Beene wrote: > billb wrote: > > With one meter of distance, the capacitance between the "lighting > > circuits" is tiny at 1meter separation. Such a charge-flow would cause a > > voltage buildup in the range of millions of megavolts. > > For the calculations involved with the Coulomb force, see the following website: > http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/elefor.html > The website does calculations for you using whatever numbers you put in. Yeah, but that website seems to be written for people who already understand the physics. Volts do not arise anywhere in the equations. If you don't already grasp the voltage issues there, well, that webpage doesn't teach them. It's basically this: if you make a leyden jar, then connect a power supply with voltage 1,000,000,000,000V, the attraction between the plates will be millions of tons. Yeah? So? Isn't that what we'd expect? (The text is almost pretending that the voltage of the "lighting circuit" remains at 120V the whole time.) (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-789-0775 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci