--- Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In some prior speculation about the possibility of > designing > an environmentally acceptable and safe uranium > fission > reactor, which employs direct thermal to electric > conversion > and depends on "makeup" neutrons in the form of > fully > shrunken hydrinos, an idea was present by Robin van > Spaandonk which is intriguing in the context of a > particular > manufacturing technique. Robin writes, > > "It seems to me that the overall efficiency would be > higher > if you just used > the electrons freed by the fission fragments > directly [snip] > This avoids losses involved in producing coherent > light, and > in transferring the energy of that light to free > electrons." I am impressed with the volume of speculation here on vortex, and the great amount of information that accompanies these speculations. Robin's above comment touches on a similar subject I was dealing with. My comments here are "off topic" to the uranium thread, but possibly more practical as a direct experimental study. This would be the subject of turning heat directly into electricity. I can describe what I did and why I abandoned the approach. I could detect delfection voltage, but not deflection current via lorentz law. In some experiments with SrFe, the common ceramic magnet material, I could make it glow red hot , but on cooling the ceramic would fracture. This was done by passing electrical currents through the ferrite, where because of its semiconductor characteristics, it would rapidly loose resistance, and a 3/8 inch block might start out registering some 30,000 ohms, but at 3/8th in width of current direction; at glow factor it was acting only as some 7 to 10 ohms. Approximately 160 volts was necessary to start this process off, where the material starts rapidly loosing resistance and heating up, but that voltage supply also must have the ability to supply at least 3 to 4 amps to produce the glow factor. The ferrite looses resistance with heat, opposite to normal metal action. Now the idea of extracting electricity via heat involved using lorentz law and using 3 dimensions of the ferrite piece for the experiment. The dimensions of the (unmagnetised) ferrite block were 3/8 in * 7/8 in * 1/2 in. Strong neodymium magnets, insulated by ceramic tile were placed across the 1/2 in. width, and current was passed along the 7/8th in. length. The currie temp of neodymium-iron-boron, (NIB) magnets is only ~ 350 degrees, but the ferrite heat glow phenomenon can approach its curie temp of~ 850 degrees F, so care is taken to insulate the NIB from any excessive heat. In fact these excessive heats were not even employed in this first experiment. A current limited supply available from alternator passed .725 A lengthwise through the ferrite, where the imposed DC voltage was measured at ~45 DC volts. Meter voltage probes were touched on the remaining 3rd dimension which showed that 3 DC volts were present as a lorentz deflection of voltage. It takes about 3 Amps before the structural integrity of the ferrite suffers on cooling, but then the temps have approached this 850 degree F level, which would quickly destroy the NIB magnet. Next experiment I doubled the amperage to some 1.5 A. The deflection voltage increased to 10.5 volts. Doubling the amperage had tripled the lorentz force deflection of voltage. Unfortunately in all of these effects the deflection voltage caused by the exterior magnetic field seemed to yeild little or no deflection amperage. Perhaps this is similar in principle to the electret phenomenon, which can manifest a voltage, but not an applied current. After all the ceramic ferrite isnt supposed to have free electrons to begin with, but since electricity is being passed through the material after a certain electrical pressure is reached, this implies free electrons passing from domain to domain. NIB also readily passes electrical currents without any seeming damage to the magnet. I will look for the existence of lorentz deflection of currents with this material also, but that has nothing to do with direct conversion of heat into electricity. Perhaps this lorentz deflection principle can be used with the uranium principle here being advocated. Sincerely HDN
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