--- Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In some prior speculation about the possibility of
> designing
> an environmentally acceptable and safe uranium
> fission
> reactor, which employs direct thermal to electric
> conversion
> and depends on "makeup" neutrons in the form of
> fully
> shrunken hydrinos, an idea was present by Robin van
> Spaandonk which is intriguing in the context of a
> particular
> manufacturing technique. Robin writes,
> 
> "It seems to me that the overall efficiency would be
> higher
> if you just used
> the electrons freed by the fission fragments
> directly [snip]
> This avoids losses involved in producing coherent
> light, and
> in transferring the energy of that light to free
> electrons."
I am impressed with the volume of speculation here on
vortex, and the great amount of information that
accompanies these speculations.  Robin's above comment
touches on a similar subject I was dealing with. My
comments here are "off topic" to the uranium thread,
but possibly more practical as a direct experimental
study.  This would be the subject of turning heat
directly into electricity. I can describe what I did
and why I abandoned the approach. I could detect
delfection voltage, but not deflection current via
lorentz law.  In some experiments with SrFe, the
common ceramic magnet material, I could make it glow
red hot , but on cooling the ceramic would fracture.
This was done by passing electrical currents through
the ferrite, where because of its semiconductor
characteristics, it would rapidly loose resistance,
and a 3/8 inch block might start out registering some
30,000 ohms, but at  3/8th in width of current
direction; at glow factor it was acting  only as some
7 to 10 ohms. Approximately 160 volts was necessary to
start this process off, where the material starts
rapidly loosing resistance and heating up, but that
voltage supply also must have the ability to supply at
least 3 to 4 amps to produce the glow factor. The
ferrite looses resistance with heat, opposite to
normal metal action.  Now the idea of extracting
electricity via heat involved using lorentz law and
using 3 dimensions of the ferrite piece for the
experiment. The dimensions of the (unmagnetised)
ferrite block were 3/8 in * 7/8 in * 1/2 in.  Strong
neodymium magnets, insulated by ceramic tile were
placed across the 1/2 in. width, and current was
passed along the 7/8th in. length.  The currie temp of
neodymium-iron-boron, (NIB) magnets is only ~ 350
degrees, but the ferrite heat glow phenomenon can
approach its curie temp of~ 850 degrees F, so care is
taken to insulate the NIB from any excessive heat.  In
fact these excessive heats were not even employed in
this first experiment. A current limited supply
available from alternator passed .725 A lengthwise
through the ferrite, where the imposed DC voltage was
measured at ~45 DC volts.  Meter voltage probes were
touched on the remaining 3rd dimension which showed
that 3 DC volts were present as a lorentz deflection
of voltage. It takes about 3 Amps before the
structural integrity of the ferrite suffers on
cooling, but then the temps have approached this 850
degree F level, which would quickly destroy the NIB
magnet.  Next experiment I doubled the amperage to
some 1.5 A. The deflection voltage increased to 10.5
volts. Doubling the amperage had tripled the lorentz
force deflection of voltage.  Unfortunately in all of
these effects the deflection voltage caused by the
exterior magnetic field seemed to yeild little or no
deflection amperage. Perhaps this is similar in
principle to the electret phenomenon, which can
manifest a voltage, but not an applied current. After
all the ceramic ferrite isnt supposed to have free
electrons to begin with, but since electricity is
being passed through the material after a certain
electrical pressure is reached, this implies free
electrons passing from domain to domain. NIB also
readily passes electrical currents without any seeming
damage to the magnet. I will look for the existence of
lorentz deflection of currents with this material
also, but that has nothing to do with direct
conversion of heat into electricity. Perhaps this
lorentz deflection principle can be used with the
uranium principle here being advocated.
Sincerely HDN

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