--- Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is all true historically, but in hindsight we
> can ask -
> were there any missed opportunities along the way?
> When it
> comes to moving lots of power hundreds of miles
> through
> Transmission Lines, and given that historically
> "other"
> considerations have dominated over what is
> theoretically
> ideal, one major point needs to be made. In theory,
> Tesla
> notwithstanding - at any given voltage and
> everything else
> being equal (which it seldom is) - one is always
> better off
> with DC than AC. That is a fact that is often swept
> under
> the carpet with the down-conversion-loss broom.
>
> Electric energy is transported across the
> countryside with
> high-voltage lines because the line losses are much
> smaller
> than with low-voltage lines. The choice between AC
> and DC
> is unrelated to this one fact. All wires in
> commercial use
> have resistance, but the development of
> high-temperature
> superconductors will probably change this soon and
> when it
> does, AC will be a goner, mas o menos, even if it
> takes
> several centuries.
Okay, lets not get totally rediculous here. No one
has even commented on the aspect of poly-phasing. How
are you going to "poly-phase" DC? Has everyone forgot
in the rush to show DC superior to AC, that in fact a
three phase AC motor is far superior to the single
phase AC version? That the three phase AC motor is
the workhorse of the industrial revolution? Let us
also recognize that with poly phase AC, the sending
wire and the recieving wire can be the same thing. How
are you going to do that with DC? Lets return to the
simple electrical theory, here espoused by Thomas
Jackson;
pg 644: Intro to Electric Circuits
"The phase current of the source is defined as the
current flowing in a particular {stator} coil of the
source of emf, and the phase current of the load is
the current flowing in a particular arm of the
load. In the wye-connected system, the source phase
current, load phase current, and line current are all
one and the same.
But careful inspection of the delta system shows
us that each line has to carry current for TWO arms of
the load. Closer inspection shows us that the
tracing direction for one of these currents is AWAY
from the source and the other is TOWARD the source.
Therefore, the line current to the delta load must be
the vector DIFFERENCE between the two load phase
currents flowing in that line."
"The line current to a balanced delta load has a
magnitude of the square root of 3, (1.7) times the
phase current in each arm of the
load and is displaced 30 degrees from the phase
current."
HDN Note; the vector addition of the WYE source of
three phase emf in an alternator is actually the
inverse of vector subtraction, because the voltages
made on each winding tied in WYE vectorially sum to
1.7 times the voltage created on only a single stator
winding. By making an electrical system where the
vector addition delivers the same result as the vector
subtraction, we must conclude that system is
symmetrically equal on both the inside-out and
outside-in applications. The sole drawback of the
quadrature phasing system that I can see is that the
series made wiring, or the analogy to quadrature WYE,
where stator delivery from the polyphased generators
are combined in series, then we again obtain only 1.4
times the individual stator voltages instead of 1.7
times that amount as is made in the current system.
SO... if you wish to ponder the above statement...
were there any missed opportunities along the way? Yes
there was and still is the missed opportunity!
For the 120 degree phasing system, it takes 1.7 amps
of the delivery "transmission line" to divide into two
one amp deliveries.
For the quadrature 90 degree phasing system, it takes
1.4 Amps to do the same division into two 1 amp
currents. This system is not in use to my knowledge,
but the simple fact then becomes that with this
"better" polyphase system the transmission line losses
should be 82% less then what the current system uses.
Ask yourself a simple question, what is the phase
angle that will hold the least amount of current on
the delivery line vs the load lines? Nobody seems to
fathom that a "symmetrically" phased distribution
system means that the vector subtraction, as with the
noted delta delivery, yeilds the same result as with a
"WYE" vector addition. Perhaps I havent thought this
out correctly, and I am open to corrections?
Maybe a poem is in order///
Between Yellow and Blue a Green can be seen;
if you look on the rainbow it is right in between.
In the beginning was the Void, and the Void was with
God; and the Void was God; who appeared with no
rotation to itself, being the object without support
in the void until multiplicity came into being. So
the ONE became many from the void, into the realm of
trisection, into the three primary colors of the
rainbow, RED, YELLOW and BLUE. Next came the
subbdivision into seven, by the mixing of primary
vibrations. The void, being beyond its creations in
the absolute sense, left its sourcing as the seventh
color, beyond the realm of sight, which next became
the evolution of vibration lowered into the next
octave; which became sound vibrations, THE MUSIC OF
THE SPHERES.
This will satisfy some;
from the time when
it was written.
Roses are Red
Violets are Blue
But the Violet Ray
always comes from two.
One can be seen
the other cannot.
In the rainbow of life
it's the violet thats sought.
It's easy to see
how the other colors merge.
But to make the violet
requires a special urge.
If you look at a rainbow,
blue's separate from red.
To understand this
enough has been said.
The colors are six,
should it be seven?
Maybe the red
had to come back from heaven.
To meet with her blue
who would give her a clue
how she came from above
and was known as a dove.
The violet ray
is next to the blue.
Where are its parents?
How can one make two?
>From opposite ends
of the rainbow they merge,
blue and red mix
to make violet surge.
The red who is used
is one that cant be seen,
Next to the violet is
an octave between.
An octave's not eight,
when sound becomes light,
it divides into seven,
with one hidden from sight.
At the vibrations of sound
came a movement around;
and an interpreter there,
so the movement could be found.
The movement around became the magnetic field,
and the interpreter of this was formed as a shield.
Encompassing motion the sheild came to be:
Tesla's motionally made electricity.
Trisection for him, was a passion of sorts,
but not in the plannings, which he tried to abort.
Instead he has shown, by writings of four;
that it is the quadrature that opens the door.
So here we will see why this is so,
by telling a story of phasings to show.
In the beginning was the moving magnetic field.
Three phases came up and around on the sheild.
Each one saw the same on its partners to be,
but the timing was different for each one to see.
Together they thought would be better then one,
so they joined all the hands in a circle to be done.
This became DELTA, the square root of three,
coming out from the corners where only one used to be.
Then they were thinking about their own source,
and a new formation then came on course.
Let us take one hand apart from the other,
so that two of us here are in series as mother,
and each ending hand can go outwards as WYE
to make each of our voltages sum together as a tie.
>From the inside-out this was generated to be,
so that all of the shields became WYE electricity.
But from the outside-in things were not that equal,
so the endings used DELTA, until the time of the
sequel.
Finally it was seen according to symmetry,
that the cross in the diamond would balance the
trigonometry
For three phases ending on DELTA, we end up with
subtraction;
so that the square root of 3, being 1.7 amps
extraction
serves the arms of delta each only one unit of action.
Now using the cross for a better delivery;
Four becomes one, so the the line goes into chivalry,
making the most for what is at hand,
and giving the most back to the land.
For here it is seen that the square root of two;
can still deliver the same two units to you.
What this means is that 1.4 amps go shared through the
line;
dividing into two, where each one unit is fine.
So for nature to divide into three timings,
means 70% more current in sharing the linings.
but for even delivery divisible by four,
means only 40% extra current before it divides to your
door.
We can also see from the magic square,
that the workable combos for three are rare.
But for four to a side, and multiples of those
the solutions are so numerous that more can be chose.
The electrical system based on the even by four
can use magic squares in formation to tap out some
more.
This is because of what we can do to go faster then
time,
and to trap the electricity right in the lines!
We will have succeeded in switching so fast,
that what went in is trapped in the past!
Postnote; da, da, da ...More old hat stuff for the
masses...
For those unfamiliar with electrical doctrines I will
show the reason
that four phasings should someday replace that of
three. When we come to efficiency of three phase
delivery a Delta line delivery employs subtraction of
the summed vectors when it gets delivered to the
triangle.
When it is created in WYE it employs vector addition.
Each of these things of course give different results.
However for SYMMETRY, both the vector additions and
subtractions would give the SAME results. We only get
the same results from both a vector addition and
subtraction when the angle between the vectors is at
90 degrees. As for the magic square stuff, that is
also totally about symmetry, where the additions of
all winding numbers sum to the same number whether
added horizontally, vertically or diagonally. Up until
the present time no one has realized what the magic
squares are good for, they have only remained a
mathematical mystery, or amuzement. If we construct a
coil with the winding numbers corresponding to a magic
square, what we have actually done when using 4 sided
square wire is to construct a coil that will immensely
slow the speed of light propagation through that coil.
Normally a coil approximately resonates as if it were
bouncing back and forth on the wire length at the
speed of light. If things are made in unison between
how you beat the coil frequency wise to the coils
natural resonant frequency, you obtain a huge rise in
voltage until the coil emits a small lightening bolt,
and this is why a tesla coil works the way it does. By
making the coil in a constructed way so that it stores
voltage by having the highest possible (uniformally
symmetrical) differences of voltage between windings
on all four sides of each wire, that mathematical
solution expresses itself as a magic square. The
voltage between windings establishes what is known as
"internal capacity." Internal capacity has the effect
of reducing a coils "natural resonant" frequency, so
that it acts as if the electrical impulse is actually
bouncing back and forth slower then the speed of
light. Thus in the future when finances are better I
should be able to construct such a large magic square
coil, where the generator sending the impulses through
the coil can actually reverse polarity BEFORE the
impulse reaches the end of the winding; and this is
what I mean by "trapping" electricity into the past
within a coil structure. The load demand from the
generator for such a coil furthermore acting as a
primary for energy delivery by a secondary should of
course be minimal. I hope I have tried to explain
some aspects of this poem then....
HDN
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