[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have often wondered why we can easily detect our angular
motion with respect to the rest of the universe but not
detect linear motion.

Thanks to the dimensions of Mass being confirmed by
Ing.Saviour's analysis, I now understand why.

Say I am sitting in a closed room with no windows

I have a bucket of water on a turntable. I rotate the
turntable rapidly.

As the water takes up the bucket's rotation I see the
water surface curve as it goes down in the middle and up
round the edges ...

Why then is it so difficult to detect the absolute linear
motion relative to absolute space.

If we use our imagination we can see that given a big
enough space ship (the size of a billion galaxies say)
which can travel at googleplex warp speeds then we could
easily detect motion relative to the absolute frame of
reference.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] quoted:

``In World War I, during a naval battle near the Falkland
Islands (off the east coast of South America, about 52
degrees south latitude) between the German and British
Navy, British gunners were surprised to see their salvos
falling 100 yards to the left of the German ships. The
engineers who designed the sighting mechanisms were
well aware of the Coriolis deflection and had carefully
considered it, however, they neglected the fact that not
all sea battles occur in the Northern Hemisphere. Thus,
during the engagement, the initial British shots fell at
a distance from the targets equal to twice the Coriolis
deflection.''

Hi All,

The above is part of a fascinating post.  But there is
an alternative (mentioned below) to ``motion relative to
the absolute frame of reference'' which demonstrates that
the centrifugal and Coriolis forces are not "virtual",
and also which produces excellent design equations.

Jack Smith

Quoting from "Relational Mechanics" by Andre K. T. Assis,
1999 (This book can be purchased at Amazon.com.)

p. 66

"Newton's Bucket Experiment

... What is important to stress here and in the previous
examples of the circular orbit of the planets and of the
two globes, is that this centrifugal force has no physical
origin in Newtonian mechanics ...

p. 217

"... relational mechanics predicts the appearance of a
real gravitational centrifugal force exerted by the distant
universe spinning around the bucket.  We can then say that
this centrifugal force presses the water against the wall
of the bucket making the water rise on this wall until the
centrifugal force is balanced by the gradient of pressure."

p.259

"... the main lines ... have already been laid down:

NO ABSOLUTE SPACE OR TIME [my caps];

only relational quantities should be involved;

all forces should come from interactions between material
bodies;

for point particles the force should be directed along the
line joining them and should obey the principle of action
and reaction; ..."

p. 261

"... We have been able to eplain the coincidence of
Newtonian mechanics that the universe as a whole does
not rotate relative to absolute space or to any inertial
frame of reference.  In other words, we have explained why
the kinematical rotation of the earth is identical to its
dynamical rotation ...

We have derived the fact that all inertial forces
of Newtonian mechanics, like the centrifugal force or
Coriolis forces, are real forces ...  This also explains
the concavity in Newton's bucket as due to a relative
rotation between the water and the distant universe ..."

p. 219

"Foucault's Pendulum

... What should be emphasized again is that relational
mechanics offers a physical explanation of the Coriolis
force.  It is now seen as a real gravitational force due
to a relative rotation between the earth and the frame of
distant galaxies,"


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