Mike wrote,

> In short, liquid N2 ****is not a FUEL source****. At best
it is an energy transfer medium, like a battery or
compressed air.

Yes, but we can muddy the water somewhat by proposing a
liquid air hybrid. Liquid air can be a fuel, of sorts.

Fred - what do you think about this....

Nitrogen is roughly 80% of air and has little value as an
oxidizer. Oxygen is a strong oxidizer. All strong oxidizers
can technically be called fuels, especially if they can be
enriched to the level of being able to superoxidize water.
Moreover, in the process of liquefying air, it is just as
efficient (almost) to both liquefy and enrich the end
product in oxygen. LOX has drawbacks and is not really
needed.

By compressing air in two stages (which is normal) and
separating the "first" stage of expansion magnetically
(oxygen has good paramagnetism, nitrogen no) then you can
chill the second stage with the nitrogen separated from
stage-one and not loose any significant energy. IOW
producing liquid enriched air of about 40% O2  content is
almost as energy efficient as producing LN, and you do end
up with a "fuel" of sorts, and it is one with extraordinary
"lust" for "free"electrons and it can superoxidize (burn)
water. It is dangerous and must be handled carefully. More
on those details in a latter post on how to use this
speculative process to perhaps quadruple the energy released
per unit of cryo-liquid carried - compared to normal LN.

However, one must realize that unless the electricity used
to liquefy air or any gas mixture is coming from a nuclear
plant (or wind, solar etc), there will still be carbon
released "somewhere" to make any cryo-liquid. Nevertheless,
this still could be beneficial as the Carnot numbers make it
more appealing than many realize. Plus during the cryogenic
stages, some CO2 can be removed but not nearly as much as is
produced in a coal fired plant making the electricity. It
still beats a gasoline engine in all respects.

This ability to separate magnetically is due to differences
in electron distribution, called the Lewis structure.  O2
has an unpaired electron on each atom. Molecules with
unpaired electrons are paramagnetic and exhibit magnetic
properties. With oxygen the magnetic properties are pretty
dramatic, as the following images show.  The Lewis structure
of N2 does not have unpaired electrons. Molecules with no
unpaired electrons that do not exhibit magnetic properties
and are diamagnetic and very easy to separate in the first
stage of a two stage liquefaction process .
http://www.chem.uiuc.edu/clcwebsite/liquido2.html

Think about it. What would you rather have - a real liquid
fuel or a real chill....

Jones


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