Hi Chris,

At 42 pages, it's a bit large to post here. Try downloading it
directly from

http://ep.espacenet.com/

BTW, it's not a patent. It's an application for a patent. Big
difference here, in that it hasn't been granted and in fact
little seems to be happening to it ( last updated late 2002 ).
For some reason it's been rejected for coverage in Germany,
I wonder why???

K.


-----Original Message-----
From: Zell, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 12:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Arie De Geus


would it be possible to post his patent? I am unable to bring up any copy of it 
from any database.

Thanks




From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:21 PM
To: vortex
Subject: Arie De Geus


There is a little information available on the web about the "alternative" 
hydrino work of Arie De Geus. Turns out I was
mis-spelling his name. My apology if you are a vortex lurker..

I must say up front that reading his book makes one think that he is a 
religious fanatic more so than a dedicated scientist. But
that does not mean he is not also an inventive genius... or does it?

He does hold a recently granted WPO patent: WO0208787

"METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR THE PRODUCTION OF SO-CALLED "FRACTIONAL HYDROGEN" AND 
 ASSOCIATED PRODUCTION OF PHOTON ENERGY

He also at one time was giving out the name of an independent laboratory in 
Georgia which had confirmed his findings. I've lost
track of the name, but it was in Marietta, if memory serves.

Even though this patent looks on the surface to be a case of BLP "claim 
jumping" it could be original and become a real thorn in
Mills' future, should both of the concepts end up being the basis of a 
commercial product. This patent seems to describe the
simplest possible hydrino device, which could be called a plasma discharge tube.

One can make inferences from the background section of that patent.

The inventor's full length book "Fluidum Continuum Universalis" is available 
from a vanity press:
http://www.booksurge.com/author.php3?accountID=GRTU00159
but I do not own it, and it is more general is nature than the patent (some 
might call it a bit "cranky"). I have read some
pertinent extracts, which can be summarized as much further from mainstream 
physics than Mills.

The major difference between the De Geus hydrino theory and that of Mills is 
"In this Invention use is made of the properties of
certain isotopes of Li, Be and B, which carry an extra neutron, in a function 
as"nucleonic catalysts". This is a new concept; so far
catalysts always only referred to actions by electrons in the outer shell of 
atoms."

It should be noted that ^22Ne is not mentioned by de Geus but it does fit into 
the category of carrying the "extra neutron" as
defined in the patent. It would be scary to think that Mills, who has some 
recent new patent filings identifying neon as a catalyst,
while in earlier work identified and used it as a not functioning control 
element, has now realized that this theory of De Geus
might have some validity and is trying to return the "claim jumping" favor by 
trying to get priority as to neon as a catalyst.

Time will tell.

Jones

 Two atoms bump into each other:
"I think I've lost an electron!" says one.
"Are you sure?" replies the other.
"I'm positive!"

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