scuse me. socialist and free market supporter. not communist. wrote socialist (not communist, there is a difference)
and it got sliced up in the copy and paste from notepad and editing. bad editing, bad. no biscuit. pretty much, you have a cow. the government takes part of your milk, and gives just enough to people with no cows to survive. but if they work hard on your fields, then theyll earn enough money to by their own cows from your next litter from you. its simple really, a minimum survival level which is guaranteed. and it would be guaranteed mostly via a minimum wage that made sense (in our economy, about 7 an hour, maybe 7.50), stricter coorporate guidlines, including agressive punishment of abuse of the workers/sellers (monopolistic behaviour, charging outrageous markups just because they can), taxed based on the services they recieve (commercial truck licenses that pay for the highways used by said coorps) things like that. On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:53:14 -0800, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "leaking pen" > > > you might say it combines the worst features of capitalism > and communism. > > > as a someone who is a communist and a free market > supporter (ones a > > government, ones an economy, there IS a difference) i > agree > > completly. ive been saying that for years. > > If you can explain how this system of yours is supposed to > work, I will try to update my highly authoritative "Summary > of World Governments", and fit it in there somewhere...as > that list needs to be further updated in light of new > reports. > > As one might suspect for a subject so important, there is > definitive ongoing analysis being done of competetive World > economies: > http://www.weforum.org/ > > The latest results: Finland remains the most competitive > economy in the world and tops the rankings for the second > consecutive year in The Global Competitiveness Report > 2004-2005, released recently by the World Economic Forum. > The United States is in second position, followed by Sweden, > Taiwan, Denmark and Norway, consecutively. Japan did not > make the top 5. > > It should be noted that only the USA and Norway have > significant petroleum, making the accomplishments of the > Nordic countries, especially Finland, even more impressive. > Only the US has abundant natural resource and good weather > and lots of arable land. All of the above (except Taiwan) > now have higher average incomes than we do... and at the > rate the dollar is falling, compared to the euro, things are > not looking good for the future. > > The reason of their success, PLAIN AND SIMPLE: The Nordic > countries are all running budget surpluses. Taiwan's secret > is low wages, a highly motivated work-force (like Japan used > to be) and absolute fear of encroachment from their larger > neighbor, should they not be able to remain extremely > competetive. > > Plus the Nordic countries have extremely low levels of > corporate corruption and tax avoidance, with their firms > operating in a legal environment in which there is > widespread respect for the rule of law, no offshore banking > is permitted, and the private sectors are on the forefront > of technological innovation with direct government > assistance. > > Tax avoidance in the US petrocracy is now running rampant, > as Richard alluded to recently, following the slap on the > wrist given to lower-level Enron tax cheats. > > Here is my slightly updated but still highly authoritative > breakdown ;-) > > Summary of World Governments > > You own two cows. Here is what happens under: > > ~ Fascism - you keep both cows, state regulates milk > production, dictates who you sell to, and the price. If a > benevolent dictator emerges, everybody gets rich. This > seldom happens. > > ~ Communism - confiscates one cow, regulates milk > production, confiscates most of your milk and profit and > gives it to unproductive people. Never known to work except > in the voluntary small scale Kibbutz collectives. > > ~ Socialism - lets you keep both cows, confiscates most of > your profit and gives it to unproductive people, but let's > you vote for the leader who promises > to change things and never does. > > ~ Democratic Social Bureaucracy (non Nordic Western Europe)- > lets you keep both cows, confiscates most of your profit > and gives it to unproductive people. It also buys a large > portion of your milk and then pours it down the drain to > stabilize prices. Then it raises taxes to fund elaborate, > expensive studies to find out why government is so > inefficient. > > ~ Libertarian Capitalist Republic - Lets you keep both > cows, the milk, and your profit. It regulates almost > nothing. You sell one cow and buy a bull and get rich while > your cowless neighbors go into poverty and you buy their > land for pennies on the dollar. If war erupts, you must form > your own militia to defend yourself and there are no public > schools or police because of the low tax base. Your > impoverished neighbors soon become terrorists and everything > disintegrates. > > ~ American Crony Capitalist Petrocracy - Lets you keep both > cows, and about 60% of the profit. It regulates nothing > directly, but borrows using your cow, bull, and new calves > for collateral to finance the exploitation of vast tracts of > public land for the benefit of the few. You try to sell the > milk but find the only cash buyer is tied to an offshore > bank, where the cronies bank, and they want to take out a > second mortgage on your livestock and retain half the > proceeds to counter the dollar's free-fall devaluation. > > ~ Democratic Social Bureaucracy (Nordic style)- lets you > keep both cows, confiscates most of your profit for better > free schooling and universal health care. Officially shames > all unproductive citizens (high suicide rate). The secret > and the only reason that this system thrives, even without > abundant natural resources (which have saved our neck in the > USA) is that they routinely RUN BUDGET SURPLUSES and do not > wage un-necessary wars under false pretenses, (at least not > since the days of the Vikings), nor do they tolerate > un-necessary litigation or corporate graft . > > What will we call this new entry, the > > ~Libertarian Communist Free-market? > Allows you to pay the upkeep on both cows, but retains the > title. It regulates nothing directly .... ..... ? > > I hope it compares favorably with what the Finns are doing > with so little to work with (other than reindeer... not that > there's anything wrong with reindeer) ... > > Jones > > -- "Monsieur l'abb�, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write" Voltaire
