Hi Greg; There is no need to blame anyone, yourself or this list. You know what needs to be done. You're an intelligent and articulate person. Make the measurements, design the closed loop system, and post the results. I understand that these projects are a long hard slog, and I admire your persistance. But we're long past discussing the relative merits of energy measurement. If you are seeing 30-50% gain as I believe you mention elsewhere on the lists ( correct me if I'm wrong ) then close the loop. If you can't, then the measurements are wrong. The key thing is, we can _never_ convince you of that fact. The experiment must do that.
If there are specific problems that arise, do post about them, and perhaps you can generate some positive discussion here. Below, you suggest a solution to your earlier problems with SMOT. Am I missing something? What's preventing you from just implementing your solution? Also, I personally would very much like to hear about your opinions regarding US4215330? Is this not SMOT? Have you made any attempts to contact Mr Hartman? There are other patents as well. Why did these other devices fail? K. -----Original Message----- From: Prometheus Effect [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits --- Keith Nagel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wouldn't you know, I mentioned SMOT a few days ago, > and who should reappear, but Greg Watson... > Beetlegeuse beetlegeuse beetlegeuse! > > For those looking for refunds from our last go > around, try his list. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Prometheus_Effect > > He's blaming Vortex in particular for misleading him > into trying to close the loop. Not to worry Greg, > the reality based community has long since > vanished. Hi Keith, That was not what I said. I blame myself for letting demands to "close the loop" unfocus me from understanding what is going on with the Prometheus Effect. I have now released details of the measurement system and testing protocol which do indeed prove the Prometheus Effect at the heart of the SMOT device is OU. Basically the Prometheus Effect allows a steel ball to be lifted up by a magnetic field against gravity and then for the ball to drop / exit from the magnetic field with little magnetic dragback while retaining ALL the PE gained during the lift. I lost focus when I started chasing retaining the KE gained during the ramp climb. It is really about using up all the ramp climb gained KE to punch through the end array magnetic dragback to reach the exit "Sweet Spot" and do a vitrual dragback less exit. There is ample data, photos, videos, independent verification, etc to prove the Prometheus Effect allows virtually dragback less exits. Have a look. Now it's just engineering effort, time and money, Greg Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com

