Hi Greg;

There is no need to blame anyone, yourself or this list.
You know what needs to be done. You're an intelligent
and articulate person. Make the measurements, design
the closed loop system, and post the results. I understand
that these projects are a long hard slog, and I admire
your persistance. But we're long past discussing the relative
merits of energy measurement. If you are seeing 30-50%
gain as I believe you mention elsewhere on the lists ( correct
me if I'm wrong ) then close the loop. If you can't, then
the measurements are wrong. The key thing is, we can _never_
convince you of that fact. The experiment must do that.

If there are specific problems that arise, do post about them,
and perhaps you can generate some positive discussion here.
Below, you suggest a solution to your earlier problems with SMOT. Am
I missing something? What's preventing you from just implementing
your solution?

Also, I personally would very much like to hear about your
opinions regarding US4215330? Is this not SMOT? Have you made
any attempts to contact Mr Hartman? There are other patents as
well. Why did these other devices fail?

K.


-----Original Message-----
From: Prometheus Effect [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 7:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Prometheus Effect and SMOT kits


--- Keith Nagel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wouldn't you know, I mentioned SMOT a few days ago,
> and who should reappear, but Greg Watson...
> Beetlegeuse beetlegeuse beetlegeuse!
> 
> For those looking for refunds from our last go
> around, try his list.
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Prometheus_Effect
> 
> He's blaming Vortex in particular for misleading him
> into trying to close the loop. Not to worry Greg,
> the reality based community has long since
> vanished. 

Hi Keith,

That was not what I said. I blame myself for letting
demands to "close the loop" unfocus me from
understanding what is going on with the Prometheus
Effect.

I have now released details of the measurement system
and testing protocol which do indeed prove the
Prometheus Effect at the heart of the SMOT device is
OU.

Basically the Prometheus Effect allows a steel ball to
be lifted up by a magnetic field against gravity and
then for the ball to drop / exit from the magnetic
field with little magnetic dragback while retaining
ALL the PE gained during the lift.

I lost focus when I started chasing retaining the KE
gained during the ramp climb. It is really about using
up all the ramp climb gained KE to punch through the
end array magnetic dragback to reach the exit "Sweet
Spot" and do a vitrual dragback less exit.
There is ample data, photos, videos, independent
verification, etc to prove the Prometheus Effect
allows virtually dragback less exits.

Have a look.


Now it's just engineering effort, time and money,
Greg

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