Jed wrote:

> Mike Carrell wrote:
>
> >Jed was not paying close enough attention then or now. Mills abandoned
> >electrolytic cells because he could not get a high enough energy density.
>
> I realize that is what he said.
>
>
> >His target then was utility boilers.
>
> That "target" is insanity squared. It reminds of the old Bob Newhart
> routine where a promoter is talking to the Wright brothers on December 18,
> 1903. He asks how many passengers can fly on the airplane, and "does it
> have a john?" He tells them he sees no commercial possibilities for it.

Pay attention: target "was". He did get investments from electric utilities.
Like any entrepreneur he shows possible applications for the proposed
development. Power generation is still a prime target, but not utilities as
such.
>
> Columbus discovered America in 1492. By 1505 there was a huge
> trans-Atlantic trade. As one person put it "the great Atlantic has become
a
> Spanish Lake." If Mills had been Columbus he would have kept it the
> discovery secret, and in 1505 he would still be negotiating the property
> rights to Hispaniola.

Jed continually underestimates the capital necessary to develop a technology
like BLP.
>
>
> >Jed has done quite well as an entrepreneur in the tidy world of
programming,
> >which was made tidy by the efforts of hundreds, if not thousands of
> >engineers who created that tidy world by doing battle with Nature in
> >creating reliable electronic components, including microcircuits. I'm an
> >engineer who has seen up close the pain to product development, the
> >continuing agony of mass production of color picture tubes . . .
>
> Oh come now Mike. Where were we 12 years after the invention of the
> transistor, in 1960? Where were integrated circuits in 1971, 12 years
after
> Texas Instruments first developed them?

As I recall, the first integrated circuits did not cause much of a stir,
because the computer market at the time had accomodated to the idea of cards
with a few gates or flip-flops on it. The Army was investing heavy bucks
inthe micromod program, which used stacks of ceramic wafers with components
on them with wires running up the sides. It was the USAF who ***needed***
integrated circuits at any price and paid real heavy cold war bucks to fund
the program. Otherwise, history might be quite different. All of that was
based on well known technology, but a trememdous effort was required to get
the circuit density up and the unit cost down. No such drive has been
focused on BLP, or LENR, for that matter.

The entrepreneural drive of applications came **after** the devices were
available. you did not and do hot have people making ICs their basement.


Was the 1992 Mills device really
> that much harder to make then the first transistors? The first transistor
> and the first integrated circuit were no more practical than the 1992
> cells. If he had done a proper demonstration and invited experts from all
> over, by now he would be the leader of the largest industry on earth.

Nope, the technology was not ready then. Why have the leaders not come to
LENR demos?

Mike Carrell



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