John Steck wrote:
I have all that info still on my hard drive... engineered and prototyped a few RMOD things myself. Can't say I got anywhere close to validating any of his claims though. The reason he concentrated on SMOT and abandoned RMOD is the energy source he was trying to plunder is gravity. The effects of gravity are negated (for the most part) in rotary configurations due to centripetal force.Gravity is a conservative force. There is nothing there to "harvest", save by letting something fall down and _stay_ _down_. Waterwheels, black holes, and brown dwarfs do that. But Greg is talking about something more.
...and to be fair, we are not talking about OU. That's like saying solar cells are OU. Solar cells harvest sunlight. SMOT harvests gravity.
Greg is talking about letting something fall down and then raising it up again, and getting energy out of the whole circuit, from starting point back to the starting point. That certainly _IS_ "OU" -- it's free energy, perpetual motion, a violation of the First Law. It's radical. And it's the whole point in his magic arrangement of magnets which will pull on a steel ball on the way in but then let it go without resistance on the way out.
Proof that gravity isn't conservative would be, to say the least, an important result.
The Minto wheel is solar powered: solar energy goes in, mechanical energy comes out. Greg's "wheel" isn't powered: zero Gibbs free energy goes in, mechanical energy comes out. That's a big difference.
You can't get energy out of static magnets, because the field is conservative.At best an RMOD is nothing more than a magnetically powered minto wheel.
There is no "nothing more..." about Greg's alleged invention; it's radically different.
-john
-----Original Message----- *From:* Nick Palmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, May 06, 2005 2:19 PM *To:* Vortex-L *Subject:* SMOT
John Steck wrote:- <<Worse yet, he managed to fleece a few of us too (not me so I must temper my indignation).>>
Well, he refunded me and even offered to send me A$50 extra for the
inconvenience... If Greg is wrong about the SMOT then he is more likely to
be deluded rather than an out and out conman. I think anyone should
be concentrating on what he originally called the RMOD which he claimed turned
for days but eventually suffered bearing failure. He has even uploaded a
couple of drawings of this RMOD to his site.
Right. Drawings. For sure.
What happened to the original device -- stolen by little green men?
Nobody should be concentrating on this at all, and that includes me, so as of this moment I resolve to stop posting on this particular topic...
