Lately there has been considerable debate about Dr. Mills hydrinos here in 
vortex. I think I'll post my hydrino question here before I consider pestering 
the Hydrino discussion group. Things have been kinda dull over there lately.

It has been theorized that the electron circling the hydrino's proton nucleus 
might eventually transform the nucleus into a neutron if there have been a 
sufficient number of fractional collapses of the orbital shell. I believe this 
may occur somewhere around 127 fractional collapses where the electron's 
velocity would eventually approach the speed of light. Curiously, things seem 
to get a little fuzzy in regards to what CQM predicts is the fate of hydrinos 
that manage to attain this highly refined fractional ground state. Even Mills, 
I gather, has not cared to speculate too deeply on this possibility in his CQM 
publications, at least not publicly.

Does anyone know how much TOTAL ENERGY is theorized to be released by the 
collapsing orbital shell of the electron belonging to a hydrino as it 
approaches the ultimate speed of light through approximately 127 fractional 
transitions? Does it approach the amount of energy that might be released by, 
say, a neutron decaying back into a proton, electron, and EM radiation?

The reason I ask this is I have often wondered WHERE the source of all this 
released hydrino energy comes from. Yes, yes, I know it's supposed to come from 
the collapsing state of the electron's orbital shell as it finds a new "ground" 
state.

But here's my point: A free standing neutron has a half life of approximately 
11 minutes, give or take a minute. As I understand it the neutron eventually 
"decays" back into a proton by releasing an electron along with some EM 
radiation. That would mean WE'RE RIGHT BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED IN THE FIRST 
PLACE! That would mean the entire amount of energy extracted from a hydrogen 
atom could be repeated infinitely as a typical hydrogen atom is transformed 
into hydrino, and then into neutron, and then finally as it decays back into a 
proton - electron pair (plus some EM radiation) to make another hydrogen atom.

There is something disturbingly circuitous about the endless production of 
energy and/or the transformation of matter. I realize this transformation may 
to some extent resemble a typical Feynman chart where subatomic particles are 
simply transformed from one particle classification into another - but we're 
talking about the behavior of ATOMS here, not the transcendent nature 
sub-atomic particles. This transformational process reminds me of the Escher's 
wood block prints, specifically his optical illusion carvings where we witness 
a figure eternally walking UP on a closed looped stairway, or a perpetual 
waterfall that self-feeds its own water source.

The only way I have been able to rationalize this eternal circuitous extraction 
of energy would be if our universe is embedded within a greater 
multi-dimensional universe where we are constantly extracting energy from a 
greater reservoir elsewhere. (And on that point, I'm not sure I'd like to be on 
the other end of the stick!)

I may be wrong on this point, but I suspect Dr. Mills CQM theories would not 
subscribe to this kind of a super-universe construct as the explanation as to 
where all this seemingly limitless energy would come from.

Mr. Carrell. Can you or anyone else shed any light on this conundrum?

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com

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