[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> From: Harry Veeder
>> 
>> A Quantum theory of Gravity may require alternative'
>> way of reporting.
> 
> ...
> 
>> See my 60k pdf file:
>> 
>> http://web.ncf.ca/eo200/alternative.pdf
>> 
>> for graphical aids.
>> 
>> Harry Veeder
> 
> I looked at your PDF file with some interest. Being a graphic artist myself
> I'm always appreciate the efforts of others in their attempts to explain as
> clearly as possible what they are proposing. Clean and simple! I like! :-)


Thanks. I appreciate your critical remarks. I believe my over all concept is
valid, but my wording needs to be refined.
 
> Unfortunately, despite the clear graphics it does not follow (from my
> perception) that the "alternative" approach is a valid one. For example in the
> alternative approach you state "if the observer were riding in the ball" he
> would report that the velocity is "always being positive".
> 
> I don't think so.
> 
> If all things are the same between the ball being thrown in the traditional
> approach versus the proposed alternative approach, the observer WITHIN THE
> BALL would personally be experiencing ZERO velocity through out the entire
> phase of the experimental observation. IOW, he would essentially be
> experiencing weightlessness. Also, he would observe that the ground that is
> initially receding from him is slowing decelerating as it travels away from
> him - but later he would observe the ground accelerating towards him. The
> observer in the ball would also conclude that anyone outside of his ball
> standing on the ground would be feeling the effects of acceleration BECAUSE
> they are standing on the accelerating ground

In the alternative approach I should have said _speed_ instead of
_velocity_, as velocity implies speed with a direction.

Also, instead of a ball, imagine it is *you* who is thrown up but you carry
a speedometer. The speedometer always reports a positive speed. Like the
speedometer in a car or the air speed indicator in a plane, the instrument
always reports a positive speed. In the alternative approach, the relative
velocity of the ground is of no interest. What matters is what the
speedometer says over time.


> - which brings up Einstein's
> comment that "Gravity" and "Acceleration" are essentially the same phenomenon.
> Please correct me if I error on this last statement but I believe Einstein has
> made that statement.
> 
> I don't see the "discontinuity" you are proposing.
> 
> Can you clarify?
> 

Yes Einstein made that claim, but I don't think it is true. I believe
there is a way to distinguish gravitational acceleration from engineered
acceleration through this alternative approach.


Harry

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