> From: "Mike Carrell"

> Curious: what is the allusion to the "dripping feather"? I'm well out of the
> loop on that one.

Only because you're not following the thread.
 
> As for the Templars, there are many legends woven about them, some
> interesting parts of that story can be found in "The Hiram Key", a history
> of Freemasonry which traces roots of its elements back to ancient Egypt and
> includes the Templars. 

Geeze, I'm not talking about Joachim and Boaz.

> An argument is made that the image on the Shroud of
> Turin is that of Jacques DeMolay, Grand Master of the Templars, [tortured by
> the Inquisition before a show trial] when they were pulled down by the
> conspiracy of Philip the Poor of France and the Pope [after a pogrom when
> Jews were chased out of France and their wealth confiscated] Both died a
> month after DeMolay cursed them as he was burned at the stake.

Pope Clement (V) withing a month, Philip le Bel (IV) took another seven.
 
> As for the "origins" of money. banking and control, that started in the
> Mediterranean basin when the Phoenicians invented money, and probably before
> that in China when they invented paper money. There is nothing new at all
> about any of this, one group rises and another falls as they are swept by
> the tides of events well beyond their control

Maybe but not to the point of issuing credit.

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