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From: "revtec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC: Intelligent design


>
> The hypothesis that an object is "nonphysical and timeless" -- invisible
in
> short -- can never be proved or falsified, so it is not scientific.
>
> It sounds like you are saying that any truth that cannot be "proven" true
> must be accepted as a lie!  You can't even accept the possibility that it
> might be true but must automatically insist that it be false simply
because
> your proving methods, regardless of how inadequate or primitive they may
be,
> are unable to deal with the hypothesis.
>
> Can we not consider the possibility that life in this universe, consisting
> of the interaction of matter and energy, is way to complex to have
evolved,
> as has been calculated by several credible mathamaticians, but that a
> creator being outside of the universe, whose life operates on entirely
> different principles, produced this universe and the life we
experience?And,
> that the totally different life form of the creator, being so different,
IS
> amenable to evolutionary principles on that plane?
>
> There is a rather serious paradox here.  Can a being, who is simple enough
> to evolve, rise to such a high level of intelligence and power that it is
> able to produce things that are too complex to evolve?  I presented this
> question before and no one commented.  In fact I said a few things over
the
> years that I thought were somewhat profound without getting a single
> response.  What I can't figure out is whether the points were either
> unassailable or so stupid that they were unworthy of a response from
anyone.
>
> In any event, the model I presented solves all the problems except that
our
> "Holy Scientific Method" is useless, and that many people, who are
> absolutely unwilling to accept the authority of a higher power, will say,
> do, and believe almost anything to disprove the existence of said higher
> power.
>
> Jeff
>
> P.S.
>
> It really baffles me how the scientific method can be invoked to eliminate
> the possibility of a creator while it is ignored when considering all of
the
> pseudoevidence for evolution.
>


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