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-----Original Message-----
From: Zell, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Herbal medicine

In a word, no, no, no, no, no

Supplements can't be fairly regulated because the ENORMOUS bias of money
distorts the whole subject.  I can personally testify to my own research on
treatments for MS - and how $$$$$$$$ was poured into trials that seemed
determined to show some positive effect for expensive interferon type Drugs
- while simple UNPROFITABLE treatments such as Swank's diet is ignored or
ridiculed and linoleic acid effects utterly ignored.

This sort of thing happens time and time again - as promising treatments for
diseases are quietly shelved because drug companies know that they are
unpatentable or unprofitable.  Examples:  High blood pressure?  You can
treat it with a simple $300 gadget called Resperate instead of drugs.
Good luck finding out about it - my doctor never heard of it - despite solid
clinical trials.

I can show you dramatic results of simple seaweed extracts on cancer done in
Japanese studies years ago - which you'll likely never hear about because
the  stuff will never make any money. I understand that Graviola was shelved
for the same reason.

Regulation is merely a pretext to get rid of drug company competition.
Put a damn label on the side of the bottle and leave everyone else alone.






 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Herbal medicine

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I'm sure you've heard Parksie crow about the scientific studies showing

>that herbal and energy medicine are inefective. IMHO, that just goes to

>show you that you can prove anything that you want to. Especially if 
>the scientific establishment is paying you to do it.

While I hate to agree with Park about anything, recent reports that
echinacea is ineffective seem to be based on careful research.

I think he also has a valid point that unregulated herbal remedies are a
threat to public health. This is because everyone knows that some herbs are
powerful drugs. Even Park would readily agree that poison ivy causes rashes,
marijuana intoxicates, and the bark of the willow tree yields one of the
most powerful and effective drugs ever discovered: asprin, used to treat
fever, blood clotting and to prevent heart attacks.
Unregulated herbal fen-phen caused widespread, serious damage to people's
hearts, including 30 fatalities.

As temalloy points out, conventional drugs also sometimes cause deleterious
and unexpected side effects. That is why they must be carefully tested
before use, and monitored continuously. I do not see why that same principle
does not apply to herbal medicines. If they are effective (as some are, no
doubt), they should be regulated.

Many important drugs were originally discovered in herbs, trees and animals,
and there are probably thousands more waiting to be discovered.

This is yet another reason why we must preserve biodiversity and wilderness
areas. Many drugs, including asprin, were originally discovered in nature
but later synthesized. This gives better control over dosage and contents,
and in some cases it helps preserves rare species. The endangered Pacific
Yew was the original source of the cancer drug taxol. It took many trees to
supply taxol, but fortunately the drug has now been synthesized.

- Jed


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