Alex Caliostro wrote:
i know tom and richard often post on esoteric issues -- i oft see
frank quote from the latin bible
i was wonderin if you cant believe scriptsure on what do you base belief
"Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible
By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent
THE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has published a teaching
document instructing the faithful that some parts of the Bible are
not actually true.
I'm not surprised.
This is nothing new. The Catholic Church has never held that the
bible is "inerrant",
The Roman Church's theology was always been a mixture of paganism and
Judica. meaning a faith based on the Bible. During their ascendancy
to power, they hunted down people like me, labeled us Judizers, and
executed us. Hyslop's Two Babylons presents a detailed discussion of
this paganism. David Hunt's A Woman Rides the Beast is the same thing
from a more results oriented treatment.
which is the way the belief that every word of it is true is usually
described. As far as I know, none of the mainstream protestant
sects hold the Bible to be inerrant, either --
During the Protestant Reformation they used to.
it's only when you get into the pentacostalists, the evangelicals,
and the charismatic sects that you find a widespread belief that
every word of it is truth
That's why we left mainstream protestantism.
(and Judas hanged himself but the rope broke and so he fell and
burst his guts, too,
Why do you have a problem with that?
and locusts in Moses's time really did have four legs,
Where did you come up with that?
and the world really was created in seven days just 6,000 years
ago, and so forth...
The Hebrew text can be read either 7 24 hour days, or 7 periods of
time, which could be of increasing lengths of time, the further back
you go.
did Noah include dinosaurs on the arc? If not, why not?
Maybe. Dragon myths exist in all cultures. Have you ever heard of the
human and dinosaur footprints preserved side by side in rock?
(Did he include bedbugs? Why??)
Pests and thrones are part of the curse which Yahweh placed on the
Earth in Genesis 3.
And what about those 50,000,000 species of rainforest insects,
many of whom don't swim too well -- where did Noah find space for
them, and how did he put them all back afterwards?
An entity would fashion a human out of a lump of clay would have no
problem taking a dog and creating many different species from their
offspring. Ditto for the insects.
I mean, they're scattered all over tropical South America, which
isn't very close to Mount Ararat. And what, exactly, was different
about water before the Flood, such that sunshine on raindrops would
not form a rainbow?
Prior to the flood,there was a canopy of crystalized water around the
earth. Consequently the atmospheric pressure was higher and the fauna
and flora were different.
One encounters many little puzzles if one tries to read it all as
literally true.)
Indeed, as I understand it, in the Middle Ages, the Catholic church
did not allow ordinary church members to read the bible directly, on
the grounds that it needed some interpretation to avoid
misunderstanding it.
You are correct, see above.
The Catholic bishops of England, Wales and Scotland are warning
their five million worshippers, as well as any others drawn to the
study of scripture, that they should not expect "total accuracy"
from the Bible."
And the World's condition continues to deteriorate.
Yeshua, and by extension Yahweh made it plain that he has no respect
for human intelligence. The wisdom of man is foolishness to him. As
the exchange between Jed and myself makes plain, religion is a belief
system. Ditto for secularism. The difference in paradigms totally
affects how we see the World.
